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Good question.Who did they think should have won (bronze)?
Cannot agree more, Kittycat! :agree: Lysacek seems to be judges daaahhling since 2005 at least, when he "won" Worlds Bronze, and nobody (in Europe) really got why. I still remember how German Eurosport commentators were totally shocked/disgusted about the result.
Anke
Who did they think should have won (bronze)?
. It's much more difficult for Buttle to land his jumps than Lysacek as his program is so intracet. .
He has landed the 3axel, he's not 100% consistancy, but it's pretty good. There are lots of skaters who miss that jump. He did also just come off an injury after 3 months off the ice.I am so tired of hearing this argument from Buttle apologists. If it's so easy to land a jump with relatively easy program, then ask Buttle to land it in an easier program. The truth is he can't do 3A, let alone quad.
Please let him land that damn 3A before we talk.
Stephane Lambiel hates the Triple Axel, and often has trouble with it.
He has landed the 3axel, he's not 100% consistancy, but it's pretty good like 85%-90%. There are lots of skaters who miss that jump. He did also just come off an injury after 3 months off the ice.
How about other skaters (ie. Joubert, Lysacek) land 3axel in a more difficult program? Why should Buttle have to simplify his choreography to get the jumps? Why can't other skater get their choreograph up to his level? When that happens and they land 3axels and quads, then I'll agree with you, not before.
He has quad to compensate. What does Buttle have to compensate? A single axel?
Can I ask you something. Do you only consider skating to be jumps alone. In other words would you prefer if the skaters came out, had lets say 10 jumps to do for what we would refer to as a "long jump session" instead of the long program. Before that there would be the session where you are alloted 5 jumps for your "short jump session". The session would be you had a certain time limit per jump, you when you wanted to start your preperation for the jump, skating into it then only the jump itself, along with the exact second or so leading into it, and the landing quality and speed of that would be evaluated. Doing that 5 times in the "short jumps session" and then 10 times in the "long jump session". I ask that as it seems you only focus on jumps so would you rather they made the competition like that to suit your viewing desires?
Of course not. Ideally, you want a very balanced skater. I very much prefer Brian, Lambiel etc. They really combine athletism and artistry well.
Nnot having some basic jumps such as 3A is unacceptable for an elite skater. That's why I hate judges to reward Buttle with medals. To be honest with you, Evan's skating does nothing to me, he is very sloppy, and he's been constantly overmarked by judges during quadless era. But hey, I'll take a 2-3A-one-quad Evan anyday than a axelless & quadless Buttle.
So you are saying you most prefer a balance of jumping and general skating, but will take the jumping with little else of consequence, over the general skating of very high quality but completely unacceptable jumping level? OK I can see your opinion in that case.
Calling Evan's in-between skating sloppy is very true as well.