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who's gonna win 2010 olympic part two

who's gonna win 2010 olympics?

  • jeffrey buttle

    Votes: 27 9.2%
  • brian joubert

    Votes: 52 17.8%
  • johnny weir

    Votes: 30 10.3%
  • evan lysacek

    Votes: 19 6.5%
  • stefan lambiel

    Votes: 40 13.7%
  • daisuke takahashi

    Votes: 77 26.4%
  • nobunari oda

    Votes: 11 3.8%
  • others

    Votes: 36 12.3%

  • Total voters
    292

chinesechanfan

Rinkside
Joined
Oct 30, 2006
now that 2010 is coming up in the next two years, i think it's safe to make predictions cuz spontaneous improvements won't happen cuz of the CoP system. it enforces it, but so far, no one is making it happen.
 

goodbyemylover

Rinkside
Joined
Dec 26, 2006
Hmm, I don't think that's entirely true.

Everyone has been hopping around in results the last two years, I think. Tomas Verner's scores, for example, have risen substantially. There are new skaters to the Senior Level that could do the same. Lambiel and Joubert also have had some result jumps in either direction. Weir hasn't been doing as well, Lysacek is a wild card (it's hard to tell where he'll place most of the time). There are also skaters that may or may not develop the quad consistantly in that time.

And your poll doesn't include Plushenko! He might go for two Olympic titles, you never know.
 

jennylovskt

Medalist
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Oct 20, 2006
I think it should be among Joubert, Lambiel, Takahashi, and Plushenko. I chose Joubert. I love Lambiel's skating more but he has the triple axel issue, I don't know if he could overcome it by that time. Also I'm not sure if he will have the motivation issue again in 2010. Both Joubert and Lambiel have better quad abilities than Takahashi, but Takahashi has the ability to out skate them like in this Worlds. Plushenko will be a bit too old by 2010 if he decides to go to Vancouver. He will skate well, he will do the quad, but I don't know if he will still win the title. I think in general, the quad rules.
 
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Dee4707

Ice Is Slippery - Alexie Yagudin
Record Breaker
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Country
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I voted for Brian, Daisuke and Johnny.

Dee
 

slutskayafan21

Match Penalty
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Mar 28, 2005
Plushenko and Verner should also be poll options, in fact if you wanted to limit it to 7 they would have made more sense then either Buttle or Weir at this point.
 

goodbyemylover

Rinkside
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Dec 26, 2006
Actually, I'd say Plushenko and Verner would be good choices for additions to the poll. However, I'd remove Oda instead of Buttle especially; he finished ahead of him this year. His short program meltdown, if repeated at an Olympics, would be utterly fatal to a chance at medals.

Buttle, on the other hand, is entirely unpredictable at this point. He had a good showing for such a short season; his training was also halved due to his injury.

All in all, I still feel it's too early to make a decision on the winner. These boys are always full of surprises.
 

Jaana

Record Breaker
Joined
Jul 27, 2003
Country
Finland
I´ll vote for "others": Tomas Verner
 
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SevenCostanza

Spectator
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Sep 13, 2006
I would love to see Johnny Weir win, if not the gold at least something. Realisticly, I think Lambiel or Plushenko.
 

Tonichelle

Idita-Rock-n-Roll
Record Breaker
Joined
Jun 27, 2003
I have to disagree... with CoP you never flipping know who will come out and win the deal...
 

morninglight

On the Ice
Joined
Apr 13, 2007
Plushenko or Brian

Plushenko and Brian appear to be technically strongest. Lambiel would also be very competitive if he comes to feel strongly about winning. Takahashi would be strongest in steps and presentation skills. But he has been said to have a "glass heart" that crashes under pressure. He says that he is getting better handling the pressure. But it may be a bit difficult to totally control the nature in such a big event. His spins and jumps also appear to be less secure.
 
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It seems to me that Takahashi has the determination and humility to overcome any obstacles in his way.

And I will be upset if he doesn't win.
 

slutskayafan21

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Mar 28, 2005
If Lambiel lands all his jumps cleanly and not downgraded(eg-not doing a double axel instead of a triple or something like that), in both the short and free programs I predict he will win gold at the next Olympics. In fact I am almost certain if he does both a clean short and free he will win the next Olympics. Plushenko at 27 wont be the invincible force he was at 23. I could never see Lambiel landing all his jumps and losing to Joubert, Takahashi, Oda, Buttle, Lysacek, or Verner, it is pretty much impossible to imagine any of those beating him landing all his jumps no matter how well they skate. So I am going to go on record as saying if Lambiel lands all his jumps cleanly in both the short and free at the next Olympics he will win the gold almost for sure.
 

doubleaxel

Rinkside
Joined
Aug 21, 2006
I find it funny when people say Buttle is a possible OGM candidate. That's ridiculous. That's just me though.

I think it could be either Joubert or Plushenko. If Plushenko comes back, then I think he would need a 4t/3t/3t to win over Brian Joubert and others without question, since everything else he does the other top men are capable of doing, as well (such as the 4t/3t, which wasn't as common, say, two years ago).
 

Ximena

Final Flight
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Jul 26, 2003
I think it could be either Joubert or Plushenko. If Plushenko comes back, then I think he would need a 4t/3t/3t to win over Brian Joubert and others without question,

I don't think this is completely true. For example let's look at these season. I won't count Olys scores because I will be the first to admit (and I'm a huge Plush fan) that Plush was overmarked in his FS, and also a little in his SP.

Plush hasn't done 4-3-3 for COP so his COP marks are actually marks with one quad.

Joubert's best SP scored is 83.64, the one he did at Worlds. And this scored is lower than three previous scores of Plush, the one at GPF in China, his Tosca CoR and his Olys SP. Now ok so the SP has the same elements and I imagine Plush's scores better than Joubert due the PCS marks.

Their FS, Joubert's 3 quads CoR program scored 160.13 (his personal best at a FS), now I remember the three quads but I don't remember much more so I'm assuming he didn't make any other mistakes, and Plush has beat that score with 167.40 that he had at the GPF in Beijing (he scored 167.67 at Olys) and I don't think he was overscored at all at the GPF, he was truly brilliant there and that program had just one quad.

Joubert's best total it's 240.85 and Plush has beaten that score four times, three if you don't count Olys; and from those four times just once (the Beijing GPF) he was completly clean.

So, really by reviewing their scores, I don't think Plush will need a 4-3-3 to win over the new Joubert; I actually think just with one extra quad he'll do it. And sometimes, just doing the same he has done last season will be enough.

Overall comparing to the rest skaters, the only one that has come close to Plush was Takahashi's NHK performance, and that score even Takahashi has said that he knows he was overscored then. IMO he wasn't in the SP but he was in the FS.
 

morninglight

On the Ice
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Apr 13, 2007
It's kind of tricky to compare scores earned in different competitions. I think that 2006 NHK Trophy was the competition that was by and large overmarked. Nobunari got very high score as well. Takahashi has great artistry, but Plush seems to be stronger in jumps.
 

slutskayafan21

Match Penalty
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Mar 28, 2005
I think a clean Lambiel would be a bigger threat to Plushenko then a clean Joubert. Lambiel could score much higher then the 83.64 Joubert got at Worlds if he did a clean short with a quad and a triple axel. He could also score much higher in the free program then Joubert ever could if he landed all his jumps, unless Joubert used his 3 quads and a maxed out jump layout which he never does. Of course Joubert is much more consistent then Lambiel, and much more likely to do a clean program though.
 
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