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Jump Doctors: Myth or Real

seniorita

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Mishin has written books about biomechanicals and teaches them at university (physical academy something..).
Now I always wanted to ask, I had seen a Katarina Witt video where she trained her jumps with a thing like a rope she was hung from, is this how all skaters learn their jumps?
 

gkelly

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Now I always wanted to ask, I had seen a Katarina Witt video where she trained her jumps with a thing like a rope she was hung from, is this how all skaters learn their jumps?

There are overhead jump harnesses and pole-based harnesses that coaches often use to give skaters the feel of new jumps when they're first learning to add a revolution. Not all coaches use them, and they're usually used only at the beginning of the process of learning a new jump.

Is this the sort of thing you had in mind?

http://www.jumpharness.com/
http://www.lebelharness.com/
http://www.pro-motionharness.com/

I also sometimes see coaches holding little kids up by one arm overhead to give them the feel of the loop or axel jump when they're first learning the singles.
 

seniorita

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yes that was it!So this thing has a mechanism that cause a force to rotate them or they are just prevent the skater from falling down when practicing new jumps?Sorry I ask, I was curious many years!
 

silver.blades

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The harness helps the skater stay in the air longer so they can get the feeling of the full rotation of the jump.
Basically, when the skater jumps, the coach pulls down on the handle, to keep the skater airborne as long as possible. It only works if the skater is close to rotating the jump on their own.
 
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^ Interesting questions.

I think the idea grew out of theatrical devices for making Peter Pan fly and Greek gods descend from the heavens. Several different systems were patented specifically for figure skating in the early 1980s.

Training methods using the “fishing pole” version were developed by coach Nick Perna., although Perna credits the actual design to a Canadian inventor, Jan Glerup. According to this bio of Perma, he used the fishing pole with many skaters including Sasha Cohen, Sarah Hughes, Michael Weiss (Perma also invented the “freedom blade”), Johnny Weir, Ina and Zimmerman, and Bereshnaya and Sikharudlidze.

http://figureskating.about.com/od/equipment/p/perna.htm
 
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Jul 11, 2003
^ Interesting questions.

I think the idea grew out of theatrical devices for making Peter Pan fly and Greek gods descend from the heavens. Several different systems were patented specifically for figure skating in the early 1980s.

Training methods using the “fishing pole” version were developed by coach Nick Perna., although Perna credits the actual design to a Canadian inventor, Jan Glerup. According to this bio of Perma, he used the fishing pole with many skaters including Sasha Cohen, Sarah Hughes, Michael Weiss (Perma also invented the “freedom blade”), Johnny Weir, Ina and Zimmerman, and Bereshnaya and Sikharudlidze.

http://figureskating.about.com/od/equipment/p/perna.htm
Apparently, Mischin had nothing to do with the invention of.
 

seniorita

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Apparently, Mischin had nothing to do with the invention of.
lol, was that even a possibility?:laugh:Mishin has invented lots of things but I dont think he could have had credit for that!
and Greek gods descend from the heavens

In a simpler version it had been used , since ancient years , to make the deus ex machina appear in greek tragedy plays. It used to be either a crane or a rope.
 
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