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Now someone got excuses?
There's a Korean judge but no Japanese? Only a really naive person will still argue that won't matter under the 'new' system.
Yuna will almost definitely score higher than Mao in terms of transitions and other PCS. Some people believe that Mao's PCS should have been higher than Kim's in the SP but the judges had something else to say about that, awarding Kim the advantage by around 1.5 points. I think the gap -may- increase if both skate perfectly because Mao lacks some choreography in her LP, especially because she's doing nothing in between her triple axels.
sorry, but what should mao do in between her axels?? split jumps and spread eagles??? she is the only woman who can do a triple axel.. even the men usually have a long preparation. all her other combinations and jumps by the way are proceeded by footwork or other moves...
You're asking me what Mao should do? That should have been a point of discussion when Mao decided to put two triple-axels in her program.
http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&mid=sec&sid1=107&oid=073&aid=0002019642
According to this Korean Newspaper article, a Korean judge Rhee will judge long program and there is no Japanese judge. Rhee says she will try her best to help Kim Yuna not lose. Shame. Shame. Shame.
Why doesn't Mao try a 3F 3L seq instead of 3F/2L? Atleast a 3F 2A seq.
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honestly, how can you be so mean ? she tries to achieve something that no lady has ever done in one competition ( 3 triple axels) and gets dissed for it... appreciate it!
i really hope non of the skaters reads these boards.... let's just hope the best one wins and wish luck to everybody! amen!
I think she might. I was watching a Japanese talk show, and they were commenting on Mao's performance at 4CCs. When Mao did her first 3F, they were surprised that she didn't follow with the other planned "triple" (although they did not specify which... I assume it would be the 3Lo, since she has a solo 3T later in the program). Then they reviewed it in slow motion, and said "she didn't have enough speed coming out to attempt the triple jump". That is why I asked if anyone had seen her practicing the combination in the practice thread... they clearly thought Mao was planning a 3F+3T or 3Lo combination for 4CCs, but just didn't execute it. Given the time between her GP events and the Olympics, she could have easily changed the program around to possibly include it if needed, and obviously there must have been some hint that she might attempt it if that is what the commentators were expecting.
As for Ladies LP predictions...
I think the LP placements might be something like this
1st or 2nd Mao Asada
1st or 2nd Joannie Rochette
(I think those two are interchangeable... If Mao skates clean, I think she will win the LP hands down... I think she will be second if she gets a downgrade on one 3A. If she doesn't, I think it will go to Joannie Rochette, particularly if she has a good skate, but also because of the tragedy with her mother and home ice. Joannie should garner a lot of high GOEs and a great PCS score to keep her up there despite having a less difficult program)
3rd Yu-Na Kim (I have a feeling Yu-Na will miss or get a downgrade on two things... either the 3T in the 3Lz+3T combination, the solo 3F which folllows the combo (she could potentially pop this), or the 3T on the 2A+3T combo)
BUT, I think they will keep the scores close enough so that the medals will wind up being
1st: Yu-Na Kim
2nd: Mao Asada
3rd: Joannie Rochette
The only skater I can possibly see threatening to change this podium order is Miki Ando... and to do that, she would need to skate a LP that is as good, if not better, than the one she skated at 2007 Worlds.
http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&mid=sec&sid1=107&oid=073&aid=0002019642
According to this Korean Newspaper article, a Korean judge Rhee will judge long program and there is no Japanese judge. Rhee says she will try her best to help Kim Yuna not lose. Shame. Shame. Shame.
There's a Korean judge but no Japanese? Only a really naive person will still argue that won't matter under the 'new' system.
blahblah
honestly, how can you be so mean ? she tries to achieve something that no lady has ever done in one competition ( 3 triple axels) and gets dissed for it... appreciate it!
i really hope non of the skaters reads these boards.... let's just hope the best one wins and wish luck to everybody! amen!
Yuna will almost definitely score higher than Mao in terms of transitions and other PCS. Some people believe that Mao's PCS should have been higher than Kim's in the SP but the judges had something else to say about that, awarding Kim the advantage by around 1.5 points. I think the gap -may- increase if both skate perfectly because Mao lacks some choreography in her LP, especially because she's doing nothing in between her triple axels.
Marrymeyunakim has been very gracious and supportive of Mao throughout all of the posts. I have no idea where you are getting an idea contrary to that... perhaps you should read the boards a bit more thoroughly
I actually think Mao has a better chance of scoring closer to Yu-Na (PCS wise) in the long as opposed to the short. The preparation for Mao's 3A+2T takes up a higher percentage of the program time than the 3A+2T and solo 3A does in the LP. She has more of a chance to make up for it in the LP. Although I think a lot of it will depend (for both Mao and Yu-Na) on how their first jump combinations go... the 3A+2T and solo 3A have the biggest risk factor for Mao, and the 3Lz+3T is so important to Yu-Na and her she does pop her first 3F periodically (there has also been trouble with downgrades on her 2A+3T this season). Hopefully both of them get their first two jumps off clean so we get to see great performances.... if they fall, I really hope it's towards the end so their programs don't turn out half-hearted hehe.
Also, I did a similar analysis with all the top ladies earlier (I took all their jumps and elements with the highest level they received all season)... do you want a link? It would be interesting to see what it could wind up being now that there is more of a basis for GOE's. ^_^
I too have been wondering what Mao would do if Kim skates lights out.
Scenario: Kim skates a clean LP. It receives 139 points (going by TEB scores and general inflation at these Olympics). What does Mao do?
a) Do 2 3-a's, a 3F-3Lo and lay it all out and see how it pans?
b) Keep the 2 3-a's, do not attempt a triple-triple and go for silver?
c) Keep one 3-a, do not attempt the triple-triple and stay clean?
Oh dear. Wouldn't it be too late to change a program at that point?
She skates right after Yuna.
That would seem just too much thinking going on in her head.
In my view, whatever Yuna's score is, Mao's got to stick to her plan and work with what she's got.
If she had a reliable 3-3, I'm sure it would already be in her program by now along with the 2 3As.
Sniper, you have a point there.
I'm just not sure that Mao's program is enough to beat Yu-Na's by approximately 5 points by doing 2 3-A's as her main weapons. And that's what she's got to do in order to beat Kim. Of course, this is all under the assumption that Kim brings the roof down with her LP, which, at this point, I'm not so sure of.
If that were the case, I don't think there is anything any skater could do to dethrone her.
Wow this thread is already so hot!
Yes, and reading it you'd think that only two skaters qualified for the long programme...