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So, what is Elvis going to complain about this morning?

Johar

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Dec 16, 2003
Inquiring minds want to know if he is mad Mao performed two triple axels last night and was still well below Yu-Na Kim's score.
 

dgel

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Jan 23, 2004
I'm guessing it will be the lack of quads, and dominance of un-manly skating in the women's long :)
 

chloepoco

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Nov 1, 2009
Inquiring minds want to know if he is mad Mao performed two triple axels last night and was still well below Yu-Na Kim's score.

I really don't understand all this Elvis hate. Sure, what he's saying, and how he's saying it, might not be the popular view. However, he is entitled to his opinion. I feel that if anyone needs to eat crow for what they put into print, it's Phil Hersh.
 

Johar

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Nobody said we hate him, so relax. I actually thought he was robbed at one of his Olympics.
 

ImaginaryPogue

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I really don't understand all this Elvis hate. Sure, what he's saying, and how he's saying it, might not be the popular view. However, he is entitled to his opinion. I feel that if anyone needs to eat crow for what they put into print, it's Phil Hersh.

We're not criticizing his right to have his opinion. We're criticizing the narrow focus thereof, the insistance in using archaic gender roles and the lack of knowledge inherent in said opinions.
 

chloepoco

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Nobody said we hate him, so relax. I actually thought he was robbed at one of his Olympics.

I'm not defending him per se, I'm just saying he's allowed to have his opinion without people starting new threads about him such as this one. I believe there already is a thread about him (and if some of those are not hateful remarks directed at him, I don't know what is).
 

Nadine

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Oct 3, 2003
No worries, Elvis Stojko is so strong, I'm sure he'll take it all in stride. *wink* He knows exactly what he's doing. *smile*

:laugh:
 

antmanb

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I'm not defending him per se, I'm just saying he's allowed to have his opinion without people starting new threads about him such as this one. I believe there already is a thread about him (and if some of those are not hateful remarks directed at him, I don't know what is).

These kind of arguments always make me smile. Should freedom of speech should only apply one way? EVERYONE has the right to express their opinion. Many people (me obviously included) feel that Stojko's opinions are worthy of criticism. Personally i find all his "skating should be more butch" as very insulting and feel the need to express the counter view at every opporttunity available. So far I couldn't disagree more with his opinions and the way he has expressed his opinions over the years makes me not feel the need to express my counter opinions in a "nice" way. He's made his bed, he's big enough and ugly enough to deal with the fall out.

Ant
 

chloepoco

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These kind of arguments always make me smile. Should freedom of speech should only apply one way? EVERYONE has the right to express their opinion. Many people (me obviously included) feel that Stojko's opinions are worthy of criticism. Personally i find all his "skating should be more butch" as very insulting and feel the need to express the counter view at every opporttunity available. So far I couldn't disagree more with his opinions and the way he has expressed his opinions over the years makes me not feel the need to express my counter opinions in a "nice" way. He's made his bed, he's big enough and ugly enough to deal with the fall out.


Ant

In this case, he hasn't even stated his opinion yet. The original poster made a thread asking "So what is Elvis going to complain about now". My point is, yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion; I just don't understand all the hate directed towards him, and I don't agree with 99% of what he says.

In any case, I'm sorry for even posting in this thread in the first place.
 

jennylovskt

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This thread has been created for pure speculation and hatred. So far, I don't see any evidence of his additional comments other than those have already been posted and shredded in other threads.
 

DesertRoad

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Inquiring minds want to know if he is mad Mao performed two triple axels last night and was still well below Yu-Na Kim's score.

He already complained about the results in a live blog last night. He said Yu Na's score was "inflated", and that Mao Asada was "underscored DRASTICALLY". He also said that people "can't even compare the technical difficulty of [Mao Asada's] program" to Yu Na's. I doubt his mood has improved any after a night's sleep.
 

skatemom1122

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Dec 22, 2009
He already complained about the results in a live blog last night. He said Yu Na's score was "inflated", and that Mao Asada was "underscored DRASTICALLY". He also said that people "can't even compare the technical difficulty of [Mao Asada's] program" to Yu Na's. I doubt his mood has improved any after a night's sleep.

Yes, the technical difficulty of a program with 4 triples, a double flip, a double axel, and a single toeloop. Quite challenging for a skater of her callibre.
 

skatemom1122

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yes, i said 4 triples, 2 axels, a flip, and a loop. however, she also performed a double flip-double loop-loop, a single toeloop, and a double axel. Yu-Na had six TRIPLES. How could Elvis ever say the technical difficulty was greater than Yu-Na?
 

miki88

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Dec 28, 2009
yes, i said 4 triples, 2 axels, a flip, and a loop. however, she also performed a double flip-double loop-loop, a single toeloop, and a double axel. Yu-Na had six TRIPLES. How could Elvis ever say the technical difficulty was greater than Yu-Na?

Because Elivis believes for a woman to accomplish two triple axels takes a greater degree of difficulty, which is not an unreasonable argument.
 

skatemom1122

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Dec 22, 2009
Because Elivis believes for a woman to accomplish two triple axels takes a greater degree of difficulty, which is not an unreasonable argument.

Not under the IJS. Look at the base value for their elements.

KIM: 60.90
ASADA: 55.86

The proof is evident.
 
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