By the way, Korean mothers are quite extreme in their "devotion" to their children, even among the East Asians. My parents are Chinese, and yet I'm shocked and appalled by what Korean mothers do for their kids. Every Korean mother with a successful child seems to get a huge amount of media publicity in Korea and ends up writing a book on just exactly what *they* did to groom their child into the success he/she is. And if you read those books, you'd be amazed.
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IMO every coach who was with elite skaters has strong incentives to do damage control unless the parting is absolutely clean cut, because it is usually the student who chooses to leave the coach, not the other way around. If the coaches don't say anything about the circumstances and give his side's story, people will for sure speculate that there is a possibility that the coach is not up to the elite students' standards and that's why he/she left the coach. Orser is just building his reputation as a world class coach, so damage control could come to him as a necessity in this situation.
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I am not at all surprised by this. Yu Na and the Korean contingent are a very cold bunch. Brian Orser deserves better than this by a longshot. He was a major reason she got as far as she did. As for Yu Na not understanding what was going on, that is just rubbish. She knew full well what her mother and manager were up to. They would never make a coaching decision like that without her input. She was and is in control. My hope is that she retires.
When Michelle Kwan terminated her coaching relationship with Frank Carroll I thought it was very unfortunate and my sympathies were with Frank. They still are. As much as I love Michelle, that was not her finest moment. This situation with Brian is much worse. They didn't return his calls and treated him very shabbily prior to the termination. I am sure he is quite hurt and I don't blame him. Again, I am not surprised. Makes me appreciate Evan Lysacek even more.
I am not at all surprised by this. Yu Na and the Korean contingent are a very cold bunch. Brian Orser deserves better than this by a longshot. He was a major reason she got as far as she did. As for Yu Na not understanding what was going on, that is just rubbish. She knew full well what her mother and manager were up to. They would never make a coaching decision like that without her input. She was and is in control. My hope is that she retires.
When Michelle Kwan terminated her coaching relationship with Frank Carroll I thought it was very unfortunate and my sympathies were with Frank. They still are. As much as I love Michelle, that was not her finest moment. This situation with Brian is much worse. They didn't return his calls and treated him very shabbily prior to the termination. I am sure he is quite hurt and I don't blame him. Again, I am not surprised. Makes me appreciate Evan Lysacek even more.
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I think you had a great post! :thumbsup:
Just one thing - Brian is an openly gay man.
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I don't think Brian would have said anything if he hadn't been seriously disrespected. Brian is not the type to stir the pot so I don't think he would be this way with everyone. If Yuna had attended the meeting, informed him of the firing, thanked him for his work, wished him luck, and left the Cricket Club. None of this would be happening right now.
Having this discussion and news has been an interesting way to spend a rainy day off though!
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Ha. Please let this not be the start of some rumor, I have no source what so ever. I am just sitting here puzzling over what could have happened, and so far that's the only "explanation" I can think of that would explain everything, save for the fact that he's very publicly gay.
Except for the fact that Brian just coached Yu-na to OGM. I bet everyone would figure that it was because of other reasons that Yu-na left.
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We-ell...while any responsible journalist will try to give the quotes they use correctly , they're not required to quote everything...and anyone who is suddenly being sought for multiple interviews might be sure to include things that were left out or glossed over in the previous interviews...So there's this link which was posted at FSU from abc/espn , which gives a slightly different perspective ;
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wirestory?id=11472061&page=1
This sounds more like Brian.. and honestly, if he's taken at his word ( he is by me ), I don't see how he could have done much differently. After getting no clarification (answers to his emails) and with the new season looming, he makes a staightforward and restrained statement through his agent. Then Yuna's's agent gives a statement claiming that he fired them and raising the old dread "other skater" scenario. I think he pretty well had to try to clarify. Maybe it's not working as well as he would like, but I don't see how he could keep mum when his announcement was met by insinuation.
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wirestory?id=11472061&page=1
This sounds more like Brian.. and honestly, if he's taken at his word ( he is by me ), I don't see how he could have done much differently. After getting no clarification (answers to his emails) and with the new season looming, he makes a staightforward and restrained statement through his agent. Then Yuna's's agent gives a statement claiming that he fired them and raising the old dread "other skater" scenario. I think he pretty well had to try to clarify. Maybe it's not working as well as he would like, but I don't see how he could keep mum when his announcement was met by insinuation.
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Ewww, don't go there.Maybe Yu-na turned him. (Sorry, I couldn't resist.)
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Ohh, man. I am sure David is already in one heck of an awkward spot. I think it'd be better if he didn't get involved.
Maybe Yu-na turned him. (Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Ha. Who could resist the charms of Yu-na?
And just to fan the flames, here's Brian's quote at the end of that abcnews article:
Honestly, he sounds heartbroken.
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Yes, he does.
Honestly feraina, your imaginary scenario crossed my mind, and I thanked the stars that he is openly gay, since it saves us all another potential can of worms.
I am also wondering if at any point, YuNa felt slighted or ignored. Maybe one day Brian was exasperated with her lack of motivation early in the summer?
I don't seriously think there could be romantic interest on Brian's side (or even aware of the possibility, which makes sense since he's gay and knows everyone knows it), especially not if he says at the end of that interview that he loves her, given the circumstances.
But a girl can fall in love with a gay man, why not?
Yu-na sounded seriously anguished in her tweet. She called him a liar and seemed extremely hurt. I mean, think about it: what is this reason for the split, that he could be totally confused about, and his expression for his confusion makes Yuna that angry and hurt?? No other crime than just this very expression of ignorance for the reason of the split.And if the reason was really this, then she could've been part of the decision, and still tell Brian she was confused when he finally got to talk to her in person.
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This scenario so reminds me of the Jennifer Aniston movie "The Object of My Affection" in which a young woman falls in love with her gay male friend.
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Maybe YuNa or someone on her side feels it was obvious that Brian did something wrong to YuNa. Maybe it's not an issue or decision that "came out of the blue." Maybe Brian's suggestions that the mom was taking control and/or acting wrongly hit a sensitive spot. Who knows.I don't seriously think there could be romantic interest on Brian's side (or even aware of the possibility, which makes sense since he's gay and knows everyone knows it), especially not if he says at the end of that interview that he loves her, given the circumstances.
But a girl can fall in love with a gay man, why not?
Ewww, the thought of a romantic something between them sounds so wrong.
*claps hands on ears lalalalala*
Nah. He sounds extremely understanding of Yuna's need to have a break, or take the time to figure out whether she wants to go on with competing. But a girl smitten... can see slight where there isn't. And don't we keep on hearing about some kind of slight or negligence from Yuna's side, when it seems so clear to the rest of us that he genuinely cares about her and puts her first.