Shakespeare and skating?
Shall I compare Michelle to a summer's day?
Much of what I am reading are opinions of what art is and how it is appreciated. May I say by watching TV? However, imo, if one were to watch PBS' Great Performances, they may get taste of real art without the metal shoes. I say taste of because it is personal.
It's a matter of taste, and one does choose their friends by what is perceived by their taste. Unfortunately, I know I am friendless on a skating board.
Shall I compare Michelle to a summer's day?
was her olympic glory to be or not to be? ... well... not to be!
sorry couldn't resist.
was her olympic glory to be or not to be? ... well... not to be!
sorry couldn't resist.
So long as fans can breathe, and screens go on...
So long lives this, and this gives life to Kwan.
Which restrictions, and how are you defining "figure skating program"?
Some are more successful in achieving their artistic aims than others. Some aim higher -- are more highbrow -- than others. But they set their own rules and exist completely outside of competition rules. Have you never seen any, or never seen any that you think can hold their own with stage dance as art? John Curry would be so disappointed. Not to mention Jackson Haines.
Here I think you are making the wrong comparison. Kwan should not be compared to Shakespeare but to a Shakespearean actor. It's Lori Nichols who draws the Shakespeare comparison. (Good luck with that one, Lori!) At any rate, Shakespeare is a stretch because the genres are so utterly different, IMO.
No, I do not disagree with all of your arguments and I have alot of respect for your opinions, even if I disagree with them at times.
I just get the feeling you are fixated on the CoP and come up with some unusual analogies defending it.
Usain Bolt and figure skating? Shakespeare and skating? The Mona Lisa and skating (Ok, that was mathman )
I agree skating is a sport. But I can't overlook the fact that it uses music, costumes and sometimes theatrical makeup and gestures as part of it's presentation.
What is it about Yuna and figure skating that captured the minds and HEARTS of her countrymen and many fans around the world?
Usain Bolt wears a "costume" only to the extent that running nude, unlike the ancient Greeks is not acceptable in our society. Perhaps Bolt's clothing does help streamline him a bit too. just as the high tech shoes help him run faster.
I must say, the more "exclusive" we are when it comes to art, the less of there will be to go around. Right now, there are several members of congress looking to defund arts programs. It's better to embrace all forms of art, rather than rope off creations as art and as non-art. Sure, the Birth of Sean Preston by Daniel Edwards is not my cup of tea, but it is art. My Friend Robert is no less a ballet than Swan Lake. Hip hop and skating aren't below ballet. Sure, my programs are mere fingerpaint compared to the bold strokes of Kwan, V/M, G/G, and Asada, but my coach and I still call it art.
Beauty pageants do the same thing. Do you accept that as an artform? And if we're gonna get into it, I'll point out that the more theatrical the costume design etc, the more likely it's designed to obscure athletic weakness (see DomShabs at the Olympics)
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Imaginary Pogue said:I'm willing to be convinced.
Imaginary Pogue said:I'm willing to be convinced.
hmmm. I believe it is better to embrace one"s personal taste as Art, and like religion, not shove it down the throats of others.I must say, the more "exclusive" we are when it comes to art, the less of there will be to go around. Right now, there are several members of congress looking to defund arts programs. It's better to embrace all forms of art, rather than rope off creations as art and as non-art. Sure, the Birth of Sean Preston by Daniel Edwards is not my cup of tea, but it is art. My Friend Robert is no less a ballet than Swan Lake. Hip hop and skating aren't below ballet. Sure, my programs are mere fingerpaint compared to the bold strokes of Kwan, V/M, G/G, and Asada, but my coach and I still call it art.
While skaters goals are to win medals, some fans look to beautiful skating as artistic whether there is a medal or not. Kwan's got a bushel of medals anyway.was her olympic glory to be or not to be? ... well... not to be!
sorry couldn't resist.
Wow and from a MoD too. No one mentioned New York, and I believe one can critique a performance, and its open to discussion without slurs. Art is personal, I stand by that, if I lose friends over it, so be it.friends don't like being talked down to because they don't agree - or are told they are stupid because they haven't experienced the "great art" of New York or wherever. I would think being a mature adult one would understand how relationships - even those online - work.