He has talked about competing in Russia so much and nearly every time he talks that unless something seriously injurious happens I don't see him not attempting it. He absolutely must do something next season as part of him getting eligibitly back. He can't renege because if he reneges probably no more eligibility ever again! So I bet he does do 2014 nationals no matter what as well as doing something next season. COR probably. The competition will probably have to be ISU and not just Russian nationals.
Plushenko wants to become a legend of figure skating
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If Kozuka skates like he did in the Worlds LP he will blow Plushenko of even Vancouver vintage away in the LP phase anyway, never mind that Plushenko is pretty much certain to only be alot worse by then. Heck the level of skating by the top 6 or 7 guys was really high at Worlds, if a few of them clean up on the mistakes nearly all of them will be unbeatable for Plushenko at this point in his career (he was already well past his prime in Vancouver). Gashinski only has to improve a bit and he will be better than Plushenko at this point would be capable of being, making it even less likely for Plushenko to return, he probably wouldnt even be Russian #1 anymore.
And Chan would have to do more than falter for Plushenko to challenge him at this point. He would have to sit on the ice for half the program then take a big dump in front of the judges.
And Chan would have to do more than falter for Plushenko to challenge him at this point. He would have to sit on the ice for half the program then take a big dump in front of the judges.
But if Plushenko have won gold in 2002 probably your favorites had better medals in 2006 and 2010, but unsatisfied Plushenko will be very hungry again and unstoppable
I agree that Plushenko will be hungry in 2014, because he had won the gold in 2010 if he and his team had payed a liiittle bit attention towards CoP. Just very little was needed for his 2010 win. But will the situation be like that in 2014 anymore? Yeah, although his mind will be hungry, his body will be 4 years older. Will that body be able to obey his mind and what more injuries he might be getting during the years before the 2014 Olympics? Of course injuries are a risk for every skater, but besides that Plushenko will also be a lot older than most of his competitors.
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Jaana is right, Plushenko can do anything if his body resists. Will his body resist? We don´t know, that´s what everybody, Plushenko himself too, wants to find out. He can fail and prove it´s impossible for a figure skater to compete successfully after a certain age or he can provide a surprise.
Plushenko loves to compete, he will be delighted to compete next season against strong skaters like Chan, Kozuka, Gachinshi, etc.
Plushenko loves to compete, he will be delighted to compete next season against strong skaters like Chan, Kozuka, Gachinshi, etc.
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it's more than 1 year ago......but is it possible that he was UNABLE to do it? unable to add 2 after 43, unable to put more jumps in the 2nd half of the program. it's a possibility instead of a judgement -- he just could not afford it.
Plushenko wasn´t prepared for the Olympics, the break was too long and he was really out of shape when he decided to come back. He skates much better now than he was before 2009-2010 season. The question is if his age and injuries will allow him to keep improving.:think:
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yeap, that also for the rest of the field,minus kozuka and dai. Should they all stay home?
honestl, I could have beaten Plushenko the way he skated at Worlds 2000
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2001-03-21/sports/18172110_1_elvis-stojko-ice-chips-elvis-lives
I think it was just a flop?
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What I don't get is if the guy is so bad and surely will fail in Sochi, what's the point of all these multi-pages talks of his "admirers" if they will have nothing to lose to him?
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Once again, I think Plushenko knows that he could not beat Chan. Still there is a good reason for him to come back. If Plushenko were at 2011 Worlds and skated like how he had skated at 2010 Olympics, he'd get silver, Kozuka would have gotten bronze, and Gachinski would have gotten 4th.
Plushenko is consistent. This is the greatest asset for him. Unlike Lysacek who has only triples in his pocket, Plushenko has quad and consistency. In the field of inconsistent competitors (Chan is not in this inconsistency category any more.), Plushenko is a real threat to any of these top competitors.
Granted, Plushenko is getting older and the road to him is getting tougher while Gachinski is going up. But I have no doubt that Plushenko is still competitive. Unless one day, his knees failed him (wish they will not!!!!!!), he'll continue like Energizer bunny. Plushenko has the spirit of Yagudin who once said at his tearing speech before his farewell performance in 2003, "You have to kill me to stop me skating." That's how a legend thinks.:yes:
I'm sure if Chan did that, he'd be in the 24th place.
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^Energizer bunny????Loool
quote from your article i cracked up:
You can tell the two Russians, Plushenko and Yagudin, because they can both jump and move their arms gracefully at the same time.
old articles ARE fun
quote from your article i cracked up:
You can tell the two Russians, Plushenko and Yagudin, because they can both jump and move their arms gracefully at the same time.
old articles ARE fun
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you forgot to say, Plushenko Olympic champion, that is big diffrence
Yes, the quality of the medals means more than quantity.
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Plushenko has dominated skating world for many years. Stojko has never dominated any. That was a huge difference too.
quality is subjective, just as "artistic", unless there is any standard for them. i am pretty sure in figure skating history book (if there is any), it won't say Stojko won 2 high quality Olympic medals and the totol value is 15.8; while plushy won 3 low quality ones and the total value 13.52.
for plushy's dominance, if i were ptf, i would say......he could dominate because there is no real competition
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This propaganda might work well in North American media, but not in the rest of the world, because real problem was the judging, especially in SP.
You are right very little needed-fair judging. This is only reason Plushenko got so many fans now after 2010.IMHO
Talking about Plushenko, anything is possible
Age difference with main medal contenders will be the same as at Vancouver, except Gachinsky , who didn’t compete.
And no one knows how judges will judge and who will skate his best.
^Energizer bunny????Loool
quote from your article i cracked up:
You can tell the two Russians, Plushenko and Yagudin, because they can both jump and move their arms gracefully at the same time.
old articles ARE fun
They are!
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Wow. I actually thought Plushenko would've been much further ahead of Stoijko. Realistically, the only difference is the Olympic Gold (which is a huge difference).
Ooh, we get to talk about 2010 judging again? Joy. That should be fun!
Ooh, we get to talk about 2010 judging again? Joy. That should be fun!
