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American Idol - - Anyone Watching?????

Dee4707

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Just wondering if thought the girls measured up to the guys??? I kind of felt they didn't, your thoughts.
 

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I'm watching, and I agree. The girls were painful last night... there were maybe three that I thought were ok... there are way more guys that make the grade.
 

Dee4707

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This week the guys are singing Stevie Wonder and the girls are singing Whitney Houston. Mary J. Blige will be the mentor. Sounds like a good show. For the girls, I'm keeping my eye on Jessica Sanchez.
 

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I wish Cece Winans would do a tribute albumn with her family-whitney would be so happy. Jessica has a great voice, and many cover Whitney quite well. But they don't have the rich tone and the octaves and pure power. She should have sang all her life, guarding her gift like Diana Ross and other superstars.
 
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I haven't been following this year, but I just read the article you linked to, Dee. That sounds like an unsavory youngster. Thank goodness this sort of thing doesn't happen too often on Idol. I remember when Frenchie Davis was let go, but what she had done was not criminal, just scandalous and bad for the image of a broadcast TV show that wants to keep its sponsors. This is actual malfeasance, it sounds like.
 

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His voice was so amazing, if what they say is true then he's a really good actor. He had me fooled.

Reminds me of when Frenchie was sent packing on season 2 because it was found out that she did bondage porn photos and video.
 

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His voice was so amazing, if what they say is true then he's a really good actor. He had me fooled.
Mike Evans, celebrity news reporter, said it was his (Jermaine) dad that blew the whistle. Jermaine had commented that his hadn't seen his dad for years and his dad said they see each other all the time. I don't get it either....supposedly he has 4 felony counts against him....4, not just 1 but 4. I just kind of find that really dumb to go on a TV show exposing my personal life to the world and to the police....here I am. Didn't anyone in his group of close friends & relatives explain that this wasn't such a good idea??? I am just upset because where I work we see young people who lead and live very rough lives and they are trying to change not make a hipocrisy out of break in life and then you see this. I think I better stop before I say something not very nice.
 
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Dee, I understand your frustration. When you see someone who is morally asleep being given such an opportunity (and possessing the gift of such a voice to begin with), it's hard not to resent him on behalf of people who are working like crazy to rise from adversity.
 

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Frenchie went on to sing on "the Voice." What happened there? Did she catch a break? What a voice she had. Half of Hollywood has a sex video it seems so, that shouldn't stop someone from getting a recording contract break, though I am totally against any kind of porn.

A coup for "The Voice" if you have seen it is that Kelly Clarkson will be doing some mentoring. I catch these shows sometimes but don't really follow idol anymore because I don't think they know how to choose the best talent. there have been some real success stories, but the voting format makes me crazy when America keeps a no talent who is young/cute and send home a good singer. I noticed this year they seemed less concerned about young and thin, and were looking for the "voice." Which is I think leading idol in the ratings and will change, has changed idol's formula. I have only noticed Sanchez with the big voice but find her boring. Maybe someone will grab me by the end. I liked Lauren Alaina of last year but was very bored with the country kid who won.

The last idol who I thought was a mega talent was Adam Lambert. I think he came in second. Can't even recall who won his year.
 

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I liked Lauren Alaina of last year but was very bored with the country kid who won.

Well, technically they were both country singers, and Scotty's actually doing really well on the Country charts. Carrie Underwood is still going strong and is - I think - their biggest money maker of all the seasons combined.
 
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You may be right, Toni. It's certainly between Carrie and Kelly Clarkson. I don't know the exact amount of revenue generated by each, though at this point Carrie seems to be more of a household word (well-known even outside country fandom). Both of those ladies give Idol the credentials to keep going, because they prove that the program can be the path to true recording success.
 

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Carrie's way more successful in her genre than Kelly, unfortunately (though I do love Carrie's music!)
 
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That was my recent impression. I can see why. Carrie doesn't just have a voice, she has a stage presence, and of course she's very glamorous. I happened to watch the entire season the year she was on, and you could just watch her growing into the role as a star.

Interesting that though probably more men than women have won at this point, the female winners (and even some non-winners) have by and large been more successful. Though Fantasia Barrino has faltered lately (largely due to her personal problems, I think--she seems to be going through an Oksana Baiul-type struggle, though like Oksana, she's got talent to burn), she did have a role in a Broadway show, not to mention her own movie and two albums. Carrie and Kelly of course have sold the greatest number of records. Jordin Sparks, a charming singer, has been on Broadway, sung the National Anthem at several prominent sports events, and appeared in magazines. And now runner-up Katharine McPhee is a featured actress in Smash, while Taylor Hicks, the winner of her year, seems to have vanished. Then there's Jennifer Hudson, probably the most successful seventh-place finisher in any competition in history. I have a theory about this. I think that currently, female pop artists tend to succeed as individual singers, while male singers tend to have more success as part of a group or a band. (Interestingly, one of the most profitable male Idol contestants ever is Chris Daughtry, who is the lead singer of his band.) Clay Aiken is the one male Idol contestant I can think of who has made it really big, though certainly several of the others have achieved moderate success.

But remember, my specialty is classical music, and in addition I haven't watched all the seasons of Idol. My theory could be full of holes. Please feel free to contradict me!
 
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Dee4707

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Clay Aiken is the one male Idol contestant I can think of who has made it really big

I, like Olympia, may need to be updated but I don't think that Clay has made it big at all. Right now he's on Celebrity Apprentice. In some ways Clay reminds me of Johnny Weir with the shock value they try to instill.
 

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Clay's sales tanked after his debut album... which was horrible. It didn't help that he alienated a lot of folks with the whole "homosexuality scandal" he went on shows right after Idol saying he wasn't gay and people who thought he was were [favorite insult here]... then he's found out that he is gay (he used male escorts) and now all the "gay bashers" were [ use favorite insult here ] his love songs album SUCKED WIND and then he went on broadway in Spamalot... I stopped following him after his coming out and his ungraciousness to the world. He pulled a Rosie O'Donnell and was an angry outted person for some reason. It was a turn off. I don't know if his broadway deal was good... though I seem to recall good reviews for his debut.

Clay was way more personable on Idol than he was after the show. I don't see him as a Johnny Weir - that'd be Adam Lambert - but maybe a Rudy Galindo?
 

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One thing I do know for sure about Clay is...he has really bad hair!!!
 
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I see I'm behind the times about Clay. So he turns out not to be the exception to my premise that it's easier for individual female singers to do well than it is for individual male singers to do well--right now, at any rate, and in the U.S. specifically. I have no way of knowing what the ratio is in Japan or the Philippines, for example, or Scandinavia.

Of course there are solo guys in country music, but so far none of the Idol guys have blasted past people like Keith Urban or Tim McGraw, right?

Of course, now I'm thinking of people like Springsteen and Willie Nelson who are huge as solo singers (well, they have bands), but they're true giants and have been around forever.
 
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