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Finlandia Trophy 2012 Oct 5 - Oct 7

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wishonastar

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Sorry to hear that Tessa and Scott won't be able to compete. Was looking forward to their Carmen program. I am sure they will be ready for Skate Canada at the end of the month. :)
The event may still be fun to watch-three of the teams were top 10 at World's last year, no? Can't wait to see what they bring this year.
 
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slipslidin

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Mar 22, 2004
In a way, it won't satisfy our curiousity regarding Virtue and Moir, but it will be more fun without them. One of those top ten teams will have a gold medal. The order of finish could be reshuffled. I expect Hubbell and Donohue to move up in the world, this year. They are a powerful new team with great coaching and choreography. Not a prediction, but I wouldn't be surprised to see B/S. H/D, C/L in that order.
 
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FTnoona

Final Flight
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Dec 26, 2009
Starting Order for the Men:
StN. Name Nation
Warm-Up Group 1
1 Samuel KOPPEL
EST
2 Yuzuru HANYU
JPN
3 Viktor ZUBIK
FIN
4 Javier FERNANDEZ
ESP
5 Richard DORNBUSH
USA
Warm-Up Group 2
6 Misha GE
UZB
7 Zhan BUSH
RUS
8 Matthias VERSLUIS
FIN
9 Kento NAKAMURA
JPN
10 Johnny WEIR
USA
Warm-Up Group 3
11 Maciej CIEPLUCHA
POL
12 Mikael REDIN
SUI
13 Adrian SCHULTHEISS
SWE
14 Valtter VIRTANEN
FIN
15 Julian LAGUS
FIN
 
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Butterscotch17

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Apr 26, 2012
I'm the most looking forward to seeing how Weir does and how he and Dornbush stack up against each other. Maybe we can get an idea of how Nationals will go. Also can't wait to see how the coaching change affects Hanyu - hopefully for the better.

As far as Virtue and Moir go, I did want to see their program and see what they did with Carmen, but as long as Scott recovers and they can compete in the GP, I'll be satisfied.
 
koatcue

koatcue

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Lipnitskaia. Easy 3lz-3t. 2a-3t-2t in the warm-up. And her spins are supereb:)
 
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FTnoona

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This youtuber uploads really fast.
http://www.youtube.com/user/MrYyyyytube

Men's SP
1 Javier FERNANDEZ
ESP 80.77 42.03 38.74 7.83 7.54 7.83 7.75 7.79 0.00 #4
2 Yuzuru HANYU
JPN 75.57 37.97 38.60 7.79 7.42 7.63 7.88 7.88 1.00 #2
3 Richard DORNBUSH
USA 71.19 35.56 35.63 7.38 6.88 7.08 7.08 7.21 0.00 #5
4 Johnny WEIR
USA 69.03 31.94 37.09 7.46 7.00 7.54 7.42 7.67 0.00 #10
5 Zhan BUSH
RUS 69.01 38.50 31.51 6.54 5.88 6.38 6.46 6.25 1.00 #7
6 Misha GE
UZB 61.32 30.15 32.17 6.42 6.00 6.42 6.58 6.75 1.00 #6
7 Kento NAKAMURA
JPN 54.14 24.30 30.84 6.54 6.17 5.67 6.33 6.13 1.00 #9
8 Matthias VERSLUIS
FIN 52.71 25.69 27.02 5.63 5.17 5.42 5.38 5.42 0.00 #8
9 Viktor ZUBIK
FIN 41.53 19.36 22.17 4.88 4.04 4.54 4.54 4.17 0.00 #3
10 Samuel KOPPEL
EST 38.20 16.63 21.57 4.58 4.08 4.25 4.58 4.08 0.00 #1
 
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Butterscotch17

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FTnoona said:
This youtuber uploads really fast.
http://www.youtube.com/user/MrYyyyytube

Men's SP
1 Javier FERNANDEZ
ESP 80.77 42.03 38.74 7.83 7.54 7.83 7.75 7.79 0.00 #4
2 Yuzuru HANYU
JPN 75.57 37.97 38.60 7.79 7.42 7.63 7.88 7.88 1.00 #2
3 Richard DORNBUSH
USA 71.19 35.56 35.63 7.38 6.88 7.08 7.08 7.21 0.00 #5
4 Johnny WEIR
USA 69.03 31.94 37.09 7.46 7.00 7.54 7.42 7.67 0.00 #10
5 Zhan BUSH
RUS 69.01 38.50 31.51 6.54 5.88 6.38 6.46 6.25 1.00 #7
6 Misha GE
UZB 61.32 30.15 32.17 6.42 6.00 6.42 6.58 6.75 1.00 #6
7 Kento NAKAMURA
JPN 54.14 24.30 30.84 6.54 6.17 5.67 6.33 6.13 1.00 #9
8 Matthias VERSLUIS
FIN 52.71 25.69 27.02 5.63 5.17 5.42 5.38 5.42 0.00 #8
9 Viktor ZUBIK
FIN 41.53 19.36 22.17 4.88 4.04 4.54 4.54 4.17 0.00 #3
10 Samuel KOPPEL
EST 38.20 16.63 21.57 4.58 4.08 4.25 4.58 4.08 0.00 #1
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Thank you for the link as well as the results!

I loved Yuzuru's SP!
 
l'etoile

l'etoile

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OMG, Johnny really took me by surprise! It's like he's gotten much better than he was prior olympics!
 
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Violet Bliss

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I'm impressed with Hanyu's performance and think he's improved much in PCS areas. Johnny Weir, not impressed with his program at all. As usual, he has good carriage and presence, but the program is rather empty.
 
sky_fly20

sky_fly20

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l'etoile said:
Wow, thanks for the report! I guess Julia's injury is not that serious.
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Julia was never injured, she only took 3 days rest from having some sort of problem adjusting to her new skating boots
that's why she skipped the test skates
 
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SkateFan66

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Feb 27, 2012
Good start for Weir. However, Weir's SP TES was only 31.94, which is below the required minimum score of 35 for the World Championship. Luckily he has at least two more ISU competitions to get the minimum score.
 
l'etoile

l'etoile

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SkateFan66 said:
Good start for Weir. However, Weir's SP TES was only 31.94, which is below the required minimum score of 35 for the World Championship. Luckily he has at least two more ISU competitions to get the minimum score.
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I wonder what he missed. Spin levels?
 
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Violet Bliss

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l'etoile said:
I wonder what he missed. Spin levels?
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His 4T is <<, with negative GOE ending up netting 2.12 points. Minor - GOE on 3Lz2T. I am surprised and think his StSq is over-scored, receiving level 3 and positive GOE seeing he stumbled in it. High PCS put him in 4th but I think at early season, a Men skater needs mid 70s to contend when the top Men will get 80's later in the season.

eta. It's his jumps he needs to work on. He did not receive any positive GOE overall for his jumps. I think his scores will improve because he has high PCS to depend on and jumps will get better later.
 
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Buttercup

Buttercup

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Mar 25, 2008
I strongly dislike Javi's SP. It's not as empty as a Morozov program, but the tackiness level is similar.

SkateFiguring said:
His 4T is <<, with negative GOE ending up netting 2.12 points. Minor - GOE on 3Lz2T. I am surprised and think his StSq is over-scored, receiving level 3 and positive GOE seeing he stumbled in it. High PCS put him in 4th but I think at early season, a Men skater needs mid 70s to contend when the top Men will get 80's later in the season.
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I think you have to make some allowances for the fact that he hasn't competed since Vancouver; not everyone is like Plushenko, who can show up and do a program with no mistakes and all the content after two years away from skating. And really, I wouldn't make too much of one early season event. If this continues to be a pattern on the GP, then it becomes cause for concern.

Johnny going for the 4T was a good sign, IMO. He has to get comfortable with putting it in his programs if he wants to be taken seriously.
 
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Bluebonnet

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Aug 18, 2010
Actually, Johnny has surprised me a little. My mind was full with his painted face and weird costumes and standing on ice movements. He was quite good. As of exactly where he is standing, we have to wait and see as the season goes. His usual flares were there but his jumps were wild. But good for him! What was the "human hair" he was talking about? On his shoulders?:unsure:

ETA:

I like Hanyu's this program. He's matured so much. His program seemed much more detailed. And I like Fernandez's SP too. His jumps were so high and looked easy. Has Fernandez lost some weight from last season? He is slimmer.
 
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