Elizaveta Tuktamysheva

starlight97 · Aug 10, 2014

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qBgMBoqttQ8
Here they are talking about the Cup of Russia(not the Grand Prix one) and that Liza is always hunted by bad luck, and that she had a poor performance there in the SP and then had to pull out in the middle of her FS, because she tore a ligament/ due to a ligament rupture.... I know that this is some time ago now, but could this still affect her?

Sorrento · Aug 10, 2014

starlight97 said:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qBgMBoqttQ8
Here they are talking about the Cup of Russia(not the Grand Prix one) and that Liza is always hunted by bad luck, and that she had a poor performance there in the SP and then had to pull out in the middle of her FS, because she tore a ligament/ due to a ligament rupture.... I know that this is some time ago now, but could this still affect her?

From that interview that I mentioned here previously Mishin did not mention it as a persisting problem. He only said her back is giving her pain.

Sam-Skwantch · Aug 13, 2014

How did I miss this beautiful photo from July?

https://pp.vk.me/c618929/v618929529/1057f/GGOclLdD4Vw.jpg

Meoima · Aug 13, 2014

Is there any news about her GP withdrawal? I am so worried about Liza. If she pulled out this year, who knows if she can make a come back the year following. Russian field is so deep with so many talented young girls.

starlight97 · Aug 14, 2014

Meoima said:
Is there any news about her GP withdrawal? I am so worried about Liza. If she pulled out this year, who knows if she can make a come back the year following. Russian field is so deep with so many talented young girls.

In the German forums at least there aren't any news, but they aren't that informative any way. Maybe someone who's lucky enough to speak the language read something in the russian forums?

I'm sorry to say this, and I don't want to be negative, but I think she's already out. She would have needed an EXTREMELY strong comeback this season to even stand the slightest chance against Lip/Sot/Rad and so one... anf now that she's in less than top form or even injured to the point of withdrawal ....
It's not gonna happen, I fear.

darazam · Aug 16, 2014

Today at open skate Liza performed her new SP with jumps (3T+2T, popped to 1Lz, 2A). Then jumped lutz properly after the performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW0h3dsmLuI

Sandpiper · Aug 16, 2014

darazam said:
Today at open skate Liza performed her new SP with jumps (3T+2T, popped to 1Lz, 2A). Then jumped lutz properly after the performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW0h3dsmLuI

Thank you for the information. Too bad about the pops, but her lutz looks good again in the video. I hope her back is doing okay.

darazam · Aug 16, 2014

I'm happy to bring good news, Sandpiper!

And here is video of the SP - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_9BTwnrHwg I think it was the last open skate, so there won't be new video of her LP. But seems Liza is in better condition than couple of weeks ago.

FSGMT · Aug 16, 2014

But, is she doing the toeloops combo because of her injury or will it be her layout? Because with a 3T+3T she doesn't have any chance against the other Russians

darazam · Aug 16, 2014

Who knows, probably she's just getting back her jumps. Person who was at the skate said that solo lutz at the short vid was her third attempt (you can hear Mishin saying "it's the last one!") to jump it.
Not so bad considering that she did only singles not so long ago.

plushyfan · Aug 16, 2014

darazam said:
I'm happy to bring good news, Sandpiper!

And here is video of the SP - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_9BTwnrHwg I think it was the last open skate, so there won't be new video of her LP. But seems Liza is in better condition than couple of weeks ago.

Thank you for the link! How about her back?

Sandpiper · Aug 16, 2014

darazam said:
I'm happy to bring good news, Sandpiper!

And here is video of the SP - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_9BTwnrHwg I think it was the last open skate, so there won't be new video of her LP. But seems Liza is in better condition than couple of weeks ago.

that entry into 2A. But at the same thing, I'm worried about the potential strain on her back.

While Liza isn't the best spinner, I like how she entered that first sit spin right in time with the music. Now she just needs to work on her concentration, to not make stupid pops.

FSGMT said:
But, is she doing the toeloops combo because of her injury or will it be her layout? Because with a 3T+3T she doesn't have any chance against the other Russians

Adelina won the Olympics with 3T-3T and no lutz in the SP at all... :slink:

karne · Aug 16, 2014

darazam said:
I'm happy to bring good news, Sandpiper!

And here is video of the SP - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_9BTwnrHwg I think it was the last open skate, so there won't be new video of her LP. But seems Liza is in better condition than couple of weeks ago.

Oh, I love this. Fabulous. She is always so fierce. She grabs the music and makes it hers.

Her spins are especially good in this one, I think. Love the semi-Biellmann spiral into the 2A. Her jumps are looking good, except the pop, of course, but such things don't worry me at this point in the off-season.

darazam · Aug 17, 2014

Some photos: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.815364411831710.1073741901.302444503123706&type=1

FSGMT · Aug 17, 2014

Sandpiper said:
Adelina won the Olympics with 3T-3T and no lutz in the SP at all...

Absolutely correct, but Adelina has a whole different level of spins and PCS (now more than ever

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Meoima · Aug 17, 2014

Fingers cross for Liza, since I adore her jumps soooo much. I hope her back will be alright.

Sandpiper · Aug 17, 2014

FSGMT said:
Absolutely correct, but Adelina has a whole different level of spins and PCS (now more than ever )

I'd rather Liza competes with 3T-3T in the SP and skates clean, than if she falls on 3Lz-3T all season (or, worse, her not competing at all). Also, recall that Anna took fourth place at Worlds with pretty bad spins and not so great PCS... No reason to call doom and gloom because of 3T-3T vs. 3Lz-3T in the SP. There are legit reasons to call doom and gloom, but the SP jump combination isn't one of them.

starlight97 · Aug 17, 2014

Sandpiper said:
that entry into 2A. But at the same thing, I'm worried about the potential strain on her back.

While Liza isn't the best spinner, I like how she entered that first sit spin right in time with the music. Now she just needs to work on her concentration, to not make stupid pops.

Adelina won the Olympics with 3T-3T and no lutz in the SP at all...

I just have to ask, I've always wondered about this:
How is it possible for a skater to do a 2A, a 3Flip and a 3T-3T and technically score higher (39.09)
Than an other skater who did a 2A, a 3Flip and a 3Lz-3T (scoring 39.03)
Given that both executed all of their jumps absolutely perfectly and clean.

Now I don't want to discuss the Sotnikova/Kim scandal !!!!!
I just genuinely would like to know how it works, because if it does work under fair circumstances as well, then it would be great for Liza!

FSGMT · Aug 17, 2014

Sandpiper said:
I'd rather Liza competes with 3T-3T in the SP and skates clean, than if she falls on 3Lz-3T all season (or, worse, her not competing at all). Also, recall that Anna took fourth place at Worlds with pretty bad spins and not so great PCS... No reason to call doom and gloom because of 3T-3T vs. 3Lz-3T in the SP. There are legit reasons to call doom and gloom, but the SP jump combination isn't one of them.

Of course I completely agree about clean skating with 3T+3T>fall in 3Lz+3T :yes:

karne · Aug 17, 2014

starlight97 said:
I just have to ask, I've always wondered about this:
How is it possible for a skater to do a 2A, a 3Flip and a 3T-3T and technically score higher (39.09)
Than an other skater who did a 2A, a 3Flip and a 3Lz-3T (scoring 39.03)
Given that both executed all of their jumps absolutely perfectly and clean.

Now I don't want to discuss the Sotnikova/Kim scandal !!!!!
I just genuinely would like to know how it works, because if it does work under fair circumstances as well, then it would be great for Liza!

The spins count as a technical element too you know.

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