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It is wrong to bring Sandhu into this because he won because plushenko did too many combos.
The continued belief that none of plushenkos wins had anything to do with being talented in artistry in any way is just too much nonsense to Continue to engage with!! Like in 2004 he won worlds because of his artistic magnificence. He had technical errors there.
That was not the point I was trying to make. I was saying that Plushenko's consistency was unrivalled, so only an artistic skater could come close to beating him (or even beat him in the case of Sandhu and Yagudin).
I'm also not saying that Plushenko isn't artistic. He has good speed and ice presence. But his jump consistency, not content, is what translates to higher artistic marks. You strip away all the jumps and footwork sequences (for which he seems to save his energy, instead of transitions and choreography between jumps), then you're left with not much. I mean, he's been trained to do that under 6.0. It doesn't matter how you skate the rest of the program if you can win by landing every jump so why invest the time to do inbetween stuff? And with no skater like Yagudin bringing the same technical game, he can afford to just make it about the jumps and elements. Obviously, against Yagudin, he would often lose because he's not a predominantly artistic skater and he's competing against somebody executing the same jumps with similar consistency.
Also, at the 2004 Worlds, Plushenko didn't win on the basis of his artistry, seeing as how he was still scored over Joubert and Lindemann in the technical elements (mostly 5.9's for TE). He was best on the day though, so of course he did get great artistic scores too.