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Finlandia Trophy 04 -06.10. 2013

dorispulaski

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We do have some synchro fans, but they mostly become visible at Jr & Sr worlds. I didn't know the teams weren't allowed to post though.
 

Rami

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Oct 6, 2013
What's wrong with Mirai? She doesn't look like she likes skating at all :( I think both hers and Elizaveta's PCS were too high. For example compared to Isabelle's(5 points lower) who skated a clean program with good jumps/tech and no GOE minus. OK you can do a lot of transitions, but what's with that if you pop jumps/UR them/fall…?

Julia and Vanessa nice surprises :clap:

Thanks Suzuki :love:


I saw it live and I think the results are correct.

Tuktamysheva was interesting , even with her jump problems. She has nice purity and power in her skating. When she took the ice for the warm up, that was a serious Wow moment. Her ice coverage was quite good and she carried herself quite well despite the jump problems. However, the music is not right for her.

Lipnistskaia was wonderful and her marks well deserved. Last year at FT she had zero interpretation but what a difference can one year make. Now she was more peaceful and let it happen. The flexibility tricks were not so obvious and in your face as last year. Of course her interpretation still needs work but she is on the right track.

Nagasu's skating was slightly better than last year but there was no real commitment to the program. There were moments where the music was just a background noise for her. Her jumps don't look good and IMO the UR/DG marks are correct and it might have something to do with the fact that she doesn't look fit. There is also this certain aura or vibe around her that gives you the impression that she is very uninspired although last year at FT that feeling was even stronger. The positives - the spread eagle to the 2A was nice as were the spins.

Lam was ok. However she is quite slow on the ice and her basic skating laborious. Some of her jumps still very low and muscled.

Olsson was clean but that program has to go. It was flat. Her last year's SP was a lot better.

Suzuki was fab. The program is not 100% there yet but she is on the right track. The program fits her well. She and Lipnistkaia were in the class of their own.
 

Rami

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Oct 6, 2013
The men's competition was quite boring live.

Hanyu was great. Miles ahead of the rest.

In ice dance Virtue/Moir were clearly the best and their free dance is wonderful. The Polish and Estonian teams were also nice but the Polish team's free dance is quite random. Their music felt random.
 

snowflake

I enjoy what I like
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I saw it live and I think the results are correct.

Tuktamysheva was interesting , even with her jump problems. She has nice purity and power in her skating. When she took the ice for the warm up, that was a serious Wow moment. Her ice coverage was quite good and she carried herself quite well despite the jump problems. However, the music is not right for her.

Lipnistskaia was wonderful and her marks well deserved. Last year at FT she had zero interpretation but what a difference can one year make. Now she was more peaceful and let it happen. The flexibility tricks were not so obvious and in your face as last year. Of course her interpretation still needs work but she is on the right track.

Nagasu's skating was slightly better than last year but there was no real commitment to the program. There were moments where the music was just a background noise for her. Her jumps don't look good and IMO the UR/DG marks are correct and it might have something to do with the fact that she doesn't look fit. There is also this certain aura or vibe around her that gives you the impression that she is very uninspired although last year at FT that feeling was even stronger. The positives - the spread eagle to the 2A was nice as were the spins.

Lam was ok. However she is quite slow on the ice and her basic skating laborious. Some of her jumps still very low and muscled.

Olsson was clean but that program has to go. It was flat. Her last year's SP was a lot better.

Suzuki was fab. The program is not 100% there yet but she is on the right track. The program fits her well. She and Lipnistkaia were in the class of their own.

Thanks for your views. Always trust the person who was really there :) Lucky you...

Though you and Anna(who was also there) have different opinions on Mirai's program :laugh: Anyways good luck to her and all today.

What a lovely program of Mirai! The speed compared to Finnish girls was great. Beautiful spins, coming to 2A... Gorgeus! Not sure if the combination was clean.
 

FSGMT

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Nagasu's skating was slightly better than last year but there was no real commitment to the program. There were moments where the music was just a background noise for her. Her jumps don't look good and IMO the UR/DG marks are correct and it might have something to do with the fact that she doesn't look fit. There is also this certain aura or vibe around her that gives you the impression that she is very uninspired although last year at FT that feeling was even stronger. The positives - the spread eagle to the 2A was nice as were the spins.
Glad that I got the same impression as someone who was actually there... (Sadly)
 

Rami

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Thanks for your views. Always trust the person who was really there :) Lucky you...

Though you and Anna(who was also there) have different opinions on Mirai's program :laugh: Anyways good luck to her and all today.

Mirai was surely better and faster than the Finnish girls but considering her past results and her talent I expect more from her than I do from the Finnish girls.

She is capable to commit the choreography http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTv2y7ypYMk but the program yesterday was a pale shadow of that Mirai.
 

sequinsgalore

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Dec 12, 2008
Artur Gachinski (RUS)

Music: Anna Karenina (soundtrack)

Black pants. Grey vest over grey shirt.

4T - stepout
3A+2T
3F - e
3A
FCSp
StSq
3Lz+2T
3Lo
3Lz
2A+2A+SEQ
CSSp
ChSt
CCoSp

Very solid skate. I think this program will be a good vehicle for him, it suits him.

Score: 74.14+71.42=145.56, 212.90 and in 1st
 

Winnie_20

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Feb 24, 2013
Thanks for the link to the excellent YLE livestream, I had no idea I'd be able to see this event. Actually, I didn't realize it was taking place until this morning (real life has kept me away from the computer since Thursday). Managed to catch up with the SPs just in time for the men's LP started. Great stuff, loved Gachinki's program just now.
 

Li'Kitsu

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Dec 29, 2011
Yay Artur!!! I hope that gives him some of his confidence back, after last season!
 

sequinsgalore

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Dec 12, 2008
Maciej CIEPLUCHA (POL)

Music: Ragtime (soundtrack)

Black pants. Black vest over white shirt.

4T - twofooted, fall
3Lz+3T - hand down, no speed out
3F - e
CCoSp
3Lo
FSSp
3Lz+2T+2Lo
3S
StSq - audience clappin along
3Lo+2T
ChSt
2A - held on
FCCoSp

He looks pleased. Some mistakes, but overall a solid performance

Score: 62.45+69.20-1.00=130.65, 197.51 in 2nd
 

sequinsgalore

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Dec 12, 2008
Richard DORNBUSH (USA)

Music: Beatles medley

Black pants and shirt. Silver belt and buttons.

3T
2S
3A
FCCoSp
StSq
4S - fall
1A
3Lz+1Lo+3S
CSSp
3F
3Lo
ChSt
CCoSp

Is he really attempting 3 quads?! Maybe he should scale down a bit, because the mistakes cost him. His program is very upbeat Beatles.

Score: 66.73+75.16-1.00=140.89, 206.71 in 2nd
 

sequinsgalore

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Matthias VERSLUIS (FIN)

Music: Nuttin' but Stringz medley

Black pants and black sparkly shirt.

4T - fall
3Lz+2T
3F - stepout
FSSp
3Lo - stepout, hand down
StSq
3Lz - foot down
2Lo+2T
CCoSp
3S+1T - hand down on salchow
1A
ChSt - energy low
CCoSp

Score: 50.22+59.82-1.00=109.04, 171.40 and in 5th
 

KKonas

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If anyone's combed through the score sheets, you may have noticed that Tessa and Scott had lower base values than the other five teams in the top six for their free dance. Their GOEs were not actually that low, it was their Base Value that lead to a low TES. I actually found their spin and lifts better than Madison and Evan - who had a slight stumble in their first combination lift yet still were rewarded a level 4.


So yes, I am agreeing that the technical panel, not the judges, were much harsher at Finlandia.

The team from Lithuania must have improved a lot in less than a month, because they scored nearly 10 points higher at Finlandia
than SLC. Same goes for the Polish team who scored about 12 points higher.

You do realize that this theory makes no sense. Only V&M's levels were rated harshly by the very same tech specialist?
 

sequinsgalore

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Dec 12, 2008
Jorik HENDRICKX (BEL)

Music: Rhapsody in Blue; Piano Concerto in F by Gershwin

Dark blue pants, dark blue sparkly shirt. Matching gloves

3A - stepout
3Lz
3F
StSq
FCSp
3Lo+2T - 'tano double toe
1Lz - stepout
3S+2T - 'tano double toe
3Lo
CSSp
ChSt
2A - stepout
CCoSp

Score: 61.05+69.52=130.57, 199.75 and in 3rd
 

karne

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*blinks* Did Artur get run over by a train at the end of his program?
 

sequinsgalore

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Dec 12, 2008
Sergei VORONOV (RUS)

Music: Tango medley

Dark red velvet pants. Black sparkly lace top fusing into the pants.

4T - solid
3A+2T
3Lz
3T+2T
3A
FCCoSp
StSq
3Lo+2T+2Lo
3S
3Lo
CSSp
ChSt
CCoSp

Big fistpump from Voronov. A clean consistent skate

Score: 82.87+78.76=161.63, 241.37 and into 1st
 

Icey

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Nov 28, 2012
Not as exciting as it could have been, but well skated. Buy the boy a comb and razor. lol
 

sky_fly20

Match Penalty
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Nov 20, 2011
Sergei VORONOV (RUS)

Music: Tango medley

Dark red velvet pants. Black sparkly lace top fusing into the pants.

4T - solid
3A+2T
3Lz
3T+2T
3A
FCCoSp
StSq
3Lo+2T+2Lo
3S
3Lo
CSSp
ChSt
CCoSp

Big fistpump from Voronov. A clean consistent skate

Score: 82.87+78.76=161.63, 241.37 and into 1st

seems Tutberidze is doing wonders for Voronov is his late career
 
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