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Is this post-olympic worlds turning out better than usual or are the scores just inflated? (I haven't had enough time to watch anything yet...)
Oh, my question is very stupid, but I always wanted to know: why 'Loop' jump is called 'Rittberger' in some European countries (incl. Russia and Ukraine)? I've never heard someone call it 'loop' here. I mean, if Rittberger was the first skater who jumped loop than why it called 'Loop' in the official rules and protocols? Salchow and Axel on the other hand named after skaters who jumped them first.
Meoima said:In pair or ice dancing, people usually say the female skater is technically superior to the male one, I don't understand why, is this a tendency for most cases?
Hello everyone, it's me again. There is this question that has been bugging me for a while. Would you guys help me out?
In pair or ice dancing, people usually say the female skater is technically superior to the male one, I don't understand why, is this a tendency for most cases?
Thank you in advance. :yay:
Here is another stupid question:
Does the bracket entry have any effect on rotations? I noticed that Ashley, Akiko, Kanako and Mao all have bracket entries to their 3F, and they tend to under rotate their jumps, especially the second jump in combo.
On the other hand, Yuna, Yulia, Caro...skate foward and make a sharp turn the same direction to enter the 3F, and they rarely underroate their jumps.
Are these just coincidences?
They get two entries. The interesting rule is what happens if the have only one skater, and she places first or second. They get 3. If she places top 10, they get 2.
http://www.isu.org/en/single-and-pair-skating-and-ice-dance/special-regulations-and-technical-rules
Rule 378, paragraph 3
That is quite interesting, to say the least. Thank you, gkelly.What I have heard is that it is the base mark of the element as called by the tech panel plus/minus the average GOE of judges' scores as soon as at least three of them have entered GOEs for that element.
There might be some change to the average GOE at the end of the program when the rest of the judges' scores are added in. But if there's a big change, that would probably because the tech panel reviewed the element after the program was over and changed the call (for one or more elements).
I'm confused!! While reading the ISU guidelines I again noticed that there are two columns for applying negative GOE. Column one is "Errors for which final GOE must be in the minuses" and column two is "Errors for which final GOE is not restricted". I mostly noticed that wrong edge calls, flutz and lips, are in the second not required to be negative column. Why then do people here insist that a flutz is required to be negative GOE? If this were true then wouldn't it be in the first column? I've noticed though on every edge call at least a -.30 or -.60 deduction is applied on the protocols this season. I've looked at a lot too and never found an edge call with positive GOE. What am I missing? Feeling...uh..stupid. Please fix me. Thanks
Here is the document I've been using: http://www.usfsa.org/content/2013-14 S&P Establishing GOE.pdf
Edit- I'll sneak another one in. Why do severe edge calls and unclear edge calls both appear on the protocols appear as an "e" . How are we supposed to know which one the judge considered it? Whe not "SE" and "e". Wouldn't that be more clear. There could be a 2pt difference in the final GOE. Plus one is required to be negative (severe) and the other isn't (unclear) . Seems a bit unclear, pun intended.