Has either Plushenko or Kovtun said anything about maybe skating just the team event, then bowing out? Or is it just us?
Has any athlete complained about skating four times in two weeks? Or is the universal attitude among the skaters, "Oh boy, more medals, more medals!"
Why should any athlete complain about skating four times in two weeks when it used to be the norm to skate three times in one week. As I am sure you remember, in 6.0 system all the skaters had to do a qualifying round + SP + FP.
Moreover, remember the format of the GPF-s between 2000-2003: SP, FP1 and the top two had to present a different FP2 in the Super Final! All in one week.
Actually, Plushenko is on of the very few active skaters who competed under these formats and won but, of course he was much younger.
Oh, for several reasons:Why should any athlete complain about skating four times in two weeks when it used to be the norm to skate three times in one week. As I am sure you remember, in 6.0 system all the skaters had to do a qualifying round + SP + FP.
Moreover, remember the format of the GPF-s between 2000-2003: SP, FP1 and the top two had to present a different FP2 in the Super Final! All in one week.
I have concerns about P/T competing at all considering their medical issues, and I would much rather they focus on the event where they have a realistic shot at a medal. I hope skaters manage their Olympic commitments wisely and don't put too much stress on their bodies. Skating takes a serious toll on the body and with so many veteran competitors still around, I'd rather not have skaters put their long-term health at risk. It's really unfortunate that this is being characterized by anyone as skaters being wusses, wimps or unsportsmanlike. I hesitate to use "won't somebody think of the children", but I do think it sends a poor message when elite athletes are encouraged to overdo it, whether it's in skating, or NFL players who played after concussions, or anything in between.^ I don't see it that way at all, Buttercup. Contrary to popular believe, figure skaters are not wussies and wimps. They came to skate; let them skate. Athletes in other sports go, go, go, go, go. Skaters can do the same.
I hope Pang and Ting burn up the ice in the short program of the team event, skating so well that China makes the finals. Then I hope they skate like crazy in the long program. Then I hope they give it their all in the individual six days later. Athletes in other sports can only wish that they got six days of rest between heats.
We are finally in agreement! This is exactly how I would handle the team event. Since qualifying for the team event is not dependent on the same competitions as the individual events, it makes sense for the spots for this event to be handled differently.I wish the team event were simplified. e.g. Of the top 10 qualifying countries in the team event, for each discipline you are allowed up to 2 entries (even if you only have 1 entry in individual disciplines), with the option to have skaters/couples skate in both the short and free.
... Piseev:
http://sochi2014.rsport.ru/sochi2014_figure/20131119/702142252.html
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Question about extra skater at the Olympics fundamentally resolved - Piseev
MOSCOW, November 19 - R-Sport. The possibility of replacing the Russian sculler after team tournament at the Winter Olympics in Sochi fundamentally resolved , said CEO of the Federation of figure skating in Russia ( FFKKR ) Valentin Piseyev .
In the men's figure skating at the Olympic Games in Sochi, Russia will present only one participant . Under the current regulations in the team Olympic competitions should act the same skater , which is stated in the statement .
" Information such is that the International Skating Union (ISU) appealed to the IOC asking that there were spare athletes - Piseyev said at a news conference at RIA Novosti. - We are informed that the issue has been resolved . Official paper at the moment we have but we are confident that it will . "
" Thus, we can put the team competition after spare skaters in individual tournament ," - said General Director FFKKR .
Thx, Plushyfan. Pls keep us posted.
Is the idea here that the ISU and/or IOC is/are changing the rules of the Olympic team event so that countries that qualified only one entry in a discipline will be allowed to have a different entry in the team event for the discipline??
Such a change potentially could affect quite a few countries. (Not saying that all the countries below will qualify for the team event. Canada and the USA will take up two of the slots.)
Countries that have qualified entries in all four disciplines, but only one in the disciplines indicated below:
- China (one man, one dance couple)
- France (one lady)
- Germany (one lady, one man)
- Italy (one man)
- Russia (one man)
- Ukraine (one entry in each of the four disciplines)
Countries that have qualified entries in three disciplines:
- Japan (one dance couple)
- Australia (one lady, one man, one dance couple)
- Estonia (one lady, one man, one pair)
- Great Britain (one lady, one pair, one dance couple)
Wonder whether the following restriction would remain in effect from the 12-page ISU Qualification Sytem PDF.
If applicable, each NOC may benefit of this Additional Athletes Quota for only one discipline of the Figure Skating Team Event.
http://isu.sportcentric.net/db//files/serve.php?id=4263
We are finally in agreement! This is exactly how I would handle the team event. Since qualifying for the team event is not dependent on the same competitions as the individual events, it makes sense for the spots for this event to be handled differently.
Well, here's two potential spanners in the works for the RuFed's plot to have it as Kovtun...
Voronov and Gachinski just 1-2'd Golden Spin in Zagreb.
And they didn't do it lamely either - both landed two clean quads in their FS, Artur did two triple Axels (one in boss combination - 3A-2T-2Lo), Sergei fell off his second but got credit for both, both of them got a lot of level 3s and 4s, Artur only popped one jump (3Lz to 2Lz), both of them raked in the positive GOE.
If Gachinski and Voronov are coming back into form just in time for Russian Nationals, this could get very, very interesting...
If Plushenko said he could, it will definitely be Plushenko. Maxim Kovtun reminds me of young Jeremy Abbott, but a lot more athletic. He is not only a strong jumper but also has rich artistic potential, richer than Plushenko at teenage years I have to say. Looking forward to seeing more of Kovtun's performances in the future!
who does htis favour the most I wonder? Maybe Japan if they get two firsts in singles.
Neither one will medal, so maybe it doesn't matter who goes.
Yeah that! ^^^^^^^