Ladies FS - 2014 Russian Championships

mirai4life · Dec 26, 2013

Can we talk about how amazing Adelina's 2axel-3toeloop combo is.

2:20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ESa9kwiEjs

I mean.....
:bow:

Amei · Dec 26, 2013

DobrinFan said:
3. The coaching council has nominated Adelina, Julia, and Alena. Now we wait to see if the executive committee gives Alena the nod! In a few hours we shall know.

Excuse my lack of knowledge on the whole selection thing- but it's not based on the results, so like regardless of her finish if the council decided to send Anna Shershak to Euros even though she finished dead last at nationals? I mean technically it is if this is the roster because Alena is the next age eligible, but the words 'council has nominated' to me says there is discretion among who they can send.

Frenchie · Dec 26, 2013

Amei said:
Excuse my lack of knowledge on the whole selection thing- but it's not based on the results, so like regardless of her finish if the council decided to send Anna Shershak to Euros even though she finished dead last at nationals? I mean technically it is if this is the roster because Alena is the next age eligible, but the words 'council has nominated' to me says there is discretion among who they can send.

Each country has different selection criteria. For Russia, and going to Euros with 3 spots available, it's: the first and second place finishers at Nationals go, and the 3rd spot is decided by the federation.
If the nominee was indeed Shershak, then I'm pretty confident that Leonova, or rather her coach, would file a complaint, citing the fact that the committee has selected the last out of 18 ladies at nationals, without any particular positive performance that might explain their decision...
They have to justify their choice if asked to, but in the end, they make sure their criteria are formulated in a way that allows them to be "covered" either way.
For the Japanese Nationals for example, when deciding between Takahashi, Kozuka and Oda for the 3rd Olympic spot, each one of them would have fulfilled some criteria their rules asked to be on the "list of people they have the full discretion to choose among"...

Amei · Dec 26, 2013

Frenchie said:
Each country has different selection criteria. For Russia, and going to Euros with 3 spots available, it's: the first and second place finishers at Nationals go, and the 3rd spot is decided by the federation.
If the nominee was indeed Shershak, then I'm pretty confident that Leonova, or rather her coach, would file a complaint, citing the fact that the committee has selected the last out of 18 ladies at nationals, without any particular positive performance that might explain their decision...
They have to justify their choice if asked to, but in the end, they make sure their criteria are formulated in a way that allows them to be "covered" either way.
For the Japanese Nationals for example, when deciding between Takahashi, Kozuka and Oda for the 3rd Olympic spot, each one of them would have fulfilled some criteria their rules asked to be on the "list of people they have the full discretion to choose among"...

Thanks Frenchie! :clap:

Icey · Dec 26, 2013

Dots said:
Have you seen Stranger By The Lake? It's fantastic!

Does it have a soundtrack someone could skate to?

Puchi · Dec 26, 2013

Icey said:
Does it have a soundtrack someone could skate to?

From IMDb:

There is no music in the film, either nondiegetic (a musical score) or diegetic (on-screen music).

So, no.

Jedi · Dec 27, 2013

CanadianSkaterGuy said:
Hah there are many things you will never understand.

Julia might be more likely to skate clean, but Adelina is the better skater (any non-biased skating enthusiast can see this).

The results of this competition were perfectly fine. The judges even rightfully placed Proklova over Pogorilaya when I was certain they would boost Pogo's PCS.

I think Julia may have left out a jumping pass looking at the protocols possibly and that could explain how she lost - not sure though.

CanadianSkaterGuy · Dec 27, 2013

Jedi said:
I think Julia may have left out a jumping pass looking at the protocols possibly and that could explain how she lost - not sure though.

Nope she had all of them in there. Her 3L received a UR call though so maybe the tech specialist caught that.

sky_fly20 · Dec 27, 2013

Julia says she is happy with her performance overall , now she knows the environment/what to do for the Olympics:

http://rsport.ru/figure_skating/20131226/711091206.html
she is not upset that she did not win the gold
Julia says she made a mistake in the short that caused her the 2 points.
her goal is always to skate clean

Picture at the press conference:
Elena , Adelina and Julia
http://instagram.com/p/iZOcNJR9ZD/#

shine · Dec 27, 2013

drivingmissdaisy said:
I don't necessarily agree. I think that, after many years, Akiko has found the type of programs that showcase her strengths and hide her weaknesses. What she does she does very well but I don't think the has the artistic breadth of last year's Worlds medalists. Akiko is arguably the fourth best artist today but I think Adelina is close behind, as is Julia. They are just skating the wrong type of programs; I almost think Adelina and Julia would be better off switching their LP music because I can see Julia doing well with more whimsical pieces and Adelina something more mature.

Are you seriously suggestion that Asada has more artistic breadth than Akiko? Asada the skater who can practically only skate to lyrical classical piano pieces? And Kim, whose artistry I find really just skin-deep.

David21 said:
Arguably, Akiko is on the same level artistically as the Top 3 from last years Worlds (or even higher than some of them) and much better than Sotnikova and especially Lipnitskaya.

I thought this really just goes without saying.

drivingmissdaisy · Dec 27, 2013

shine said:
Are you seriously suggestion that Asada has more artistic breadth than Akiko? Asada the skater who can practically only skate to lyrical classical piano pieces? And Kim, whose artistry I find really just skin-deep..

Yes I am suggesting that, which is a personal opinion. I don't think it is insulting Akiko to say that Yuna, Mao, and Carolina attempt a wider range of programs. Mao, for instance, does not "only skate to lyrical classical piano pieces"; she has tried heavy pieces (Masquerade Waltz, Bells), light pieces (I Got Rhythm) and everything in between.

miki88 · Dec 27, 2013

I actually agree with drivingmissdaisy. While I think Akiko has emotional honesty that makes her performances inspiring when she skates well, I don't find her that versatile. If you look at her music choices, she usually picks broadway musicals. This is a smart choice because it emphasizes her strengths (emotional honesty) and hides her weaknesses (lines, extension). Actually, I feel the same about Daisuke. I love Dai when he is skating to Tangos or upbeat music that showcases his flair and charisma. When he is skating to more lyrical, slower pieces, like this year's Beatles, I find it a bit boring.

sky_fly20 · Dec 27, 2013

Suzuki is overrated in this forum, the only reason they like her is because she is a late bloomer so called woman

I'd take Dorothy Hamil's musicality anyday to Akiko

FSGMT · Dec 27, 2013

And I would like to point out, that for the second time this season, Adelina landed all of her 3 flips! :clap:

sky_fly20 · Dec 27, 2013

FSGMT said:
And I would like to point out, that for the second time this season, Adelina landed all of her 3 flips!

No she didnt

Mirunna · Dec 27, 2013

sky_fly20 said:
No she didnt

Yes she did. First time in Paris and now at Nationals. Geez

RemyRose · Dec 27, 2013

Mirunna said:
Yes she did. First time in Paris and now at Nationals. Geez

1 + 1 = 2

seniorita · Dec 27, 2013

Asada has not skated only to classical lyrical pieces...And I think she has a wide range yes, from her competitive programs to her exhibitions.

shine · Dec 28, 2013

seniorita said:
Asada has not skated only to classical lyrical pieces...And I think she has a wide range yes, from her competitive programs to her exhibitions.

Sure. But that's the only type of music that she actually knows how to interpret well.

CanadianSkaterGuy · Dec 28, 2013

shine said:
Sure. But that's the only type of music that she actually knows how to interpret well.

IMO, her SP from last year (which grew on me) was well interpreted and it wasn't classical.

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