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Thread: The Time Rule

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    Michelle apparently lost the count

    I just compared my Nationals and Worlds tapes. At Nationals she started the final spin sequence at 2:27 and checked out of the final spin a bit before 2:40. Her arms and upper body continued to move a bit after 2:40, but not glaringly so. At Worlds, she started the spin sequence at 2:26, but she did five or six more rotations on the last spin than at Nationals, and was still spinning with her free foot well clear of the ice after the 2:40 mark. She did not get both feet down and stopped until about 2:42.

    What happened? I would guess the sort of brain lock that could have happened to anybody. The music has no audible melodic or metrical cue for the last half minute or so, being all drone and drums from there to the end. If the applause was loud enough, she might not have heard the final drum beat at 2:39 with enough certainty to do a snap checkout should she be on a roll in that final spin, while somehow thinking she had more time remaining than she actually did.

    Let's not knock her for this if we have not walked in her shoes. My fellow military bandsmen and I, all experts in our craft, occasionally miscounted in routines we knew cold. Once in a great while the result was a visible or audible error.

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    On the bright side...she did all of the rotations and then some. So you could say she was penalized for being an over achiever?:D :D :D

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    Kurt Browning once got a .3 deduction in a pro-am competition because his program was 30 seconds too short.


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    I know I heard them say during the broadcast that both Arakawa and Cohen were timed at 2:39. I'd really like to know why those of you saying Michelle "should have known better/how dare she/unsportsmanlike/blahblahblah"...why the heck aren't you whining about how close they were??? Its bad enough when the judges don't hold all the skaters to the same standards, but the fans of the sport too? All of the skaters have programs timed fairly close to the limit. Had this "rule" been enforced for all-all the time it would be understandable. We all know that's not the case, and that is what makes this whole issue totally wrong and unfair.

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