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Imagining alternative partners in pairs/dance

centerpt1

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Nov 27, 2008
Dance partner swaps:

Hawayek and Poirier

Gilles and Bates (body types match)

Chock and Shibutani (would wake him up a bit)

Shibutani and Eaton
 

Skater Boy

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Feb 24, 2012
The original quote said "a role-reversal pairs team, of Mae Berenice Meite, and Florent Amodio." I think that means that Meite would throw and lift Amodio!
Still not a pretty picture lol! Florent has a kind of odd look on ice. I have nightmares of the Williams sisters already attacking Charlie White and those curls. It isn't pretty. What about Aliona and Trankov? Aliona looks like Tanya. I mean I think V and T are cute together and work but I could see Aliona working too. I think it would be funny to see Larionov with a say a Cohen Beautyh and the Beast. how abuot Evan and Gracie as a pairs team? I think Abbott is too much of a diva to put him with another diva or girl. Too tempermental.
 

LRK

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Nov 13, 2012
I think Florent Amodio is only 5'4 or 5'5, so yeah, he would probably have trouble being the one to do the lifting. ;)

It would have been interesting if Brian Joubert had carried through with his claim that he was going to go into pairs one day - he's about 5'10 and pretty muscular, so he would have been built for it.

Has he given up on the notion completely, though? I don't think he'd be aiming for high level competitions, but hasn't he said recentl-ish that he still is thinking about it? I believe he said it might help him gain experience for when he becomes a coach.

I wonder who would suit him? And now I'm not talking as in realistically-who-might-be-actually-available sort of thing, but pure fancy. Is Valentina too tall for him? I don't really know her height...
 

Ryan O

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Has he given up on the notion completely, though? I don't think he'd be aiming for high level competitions, but hasn't he said recentl-ish that he still is thinking about it? I believe he said it might help him gain experience for when he becomes a coach.

I wonder who would suit him? And now I'm not talking as in realistically-who-might-be-actually-available sort of thing, but pure fancy. Is Valentina too tall for him? I don't really know her height...

Well, Brian Joubert has retired from competition, so if he does any pairs skating, I assume it would be in exhibition galas or part of a group program number for fun.

Brian will be 30 this September, so he is considered 'old' now. He's not at the physical peak he was when he was World Champion back around 2007, but I'm sure he can be a popular part of European skating shows for the next few years.
 

Ladskater

~ Figure Skating Is My Passion ~
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I would pick Shawn Sawyer to skate with Sasha because of the flexibility of both these skaters. I can see them doing some amazing moves together...it would be fun!
 

ILuvYuna

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Feb 27, 2014
I don't think I'd actually pair them together, but I'd love to see Yuna and Boitano do huge side by side tano lutzes lol. Brian would probably make a good partner, right? (He looks really tall and strong). Yuna's skating style reminds me a little bit of Chan's, but he doesn't look as tall as Brian, I don't know...

Khokhlova/Shabalin :biggrin: Something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pcsECM_4Nc

Wow - Love! :love:

(ps - La La La Human Steps :agree: http://youtu.be/ZHU5QLEjGAg?t=1m23s)


I would pick Shawn Sawyer to skate with Sasha because of the flexibility of both these skaters. I can see them doing some amazing moves together...it would be fun!

Spirals :love:
 

Ryan O

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While Abbott would make a fantastic ice dancer, I don't know if he will be a good partner. It will be hard to deal with his temperament. His partner will have to be extremely understanding and tolerant.

I suppose we never know for sure how someone will work with a partner until we see it in action, but if you are right about Abbott having a difficult temperament, that highlights the issue discussed above about partnerships. The most important factor in a long-lasting partnership is not necessarily whether the people are good skaters and what types of tricks they can do on the ice, but whether they have the personalities to work closely with another person through ups and downs over many years.
 

BlackPack

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Mar 20, 2013
I suppose we never know for sure how someone will work with a partner until we see it in action, but if you are right about Abbott having a difficult temperament, that highlights the issue discussed above about partnerships. The most important factor in a long-lasting partnership is not necessarily whether the people are good skaters and what types of tricks they can do on the ice, but whether they have the personalities to work closely with another person through ups and downs over many years.

You are absolutely right. Moskvina said that Natalia M and Artur D complemented each other perfectly. Then she fell in love with him and he married someone else. While they were still successful despite their romantic entanglements, a lesser pair wouldn't have survived such a rift.
 

Ryan O

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Although there is no official study or measurement that has been done, it appears that the majority of pairs and dance teams don't become off-ice couples. Some just work together on the ice and have little interaction off the ice, while others become close friends. Only a minority become romantic couples, and only a small number of those make it as far as getting married and having a family. I remember reading an interview with coach Richard Gauthier a few years ago where he said that when a new pair arrives to work with him, he actually prefers it if they aren't a real-life couple because he thinks it complicates things. It's important to keep the off-ice drama separate from the work on the ice.
 

BlackPack

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There have also been many pairs and ice dancers who were married or romantically involved. Many have divorced. Exposure to international travel, shows, and globalization has given people more opportunities to date other people. At the moment, I can only think of Linichuk and Karponossov, Rahkamo and Kokko, and Klimova and Ponomarenko as couples on and off the ice in lasting marriages.

Skating in pairs is a big business. After all, training at the elite level is around 100K a year. A coterie of coaches, choreographers, nutritionists, specialists, managers, etc. are behind a successful team. You need a cool head and personality to deal with this very pragmatic side of skating. Voir and Marlie skated together since childhood, and they're more like siblings. Not many pairs have the fairy-tale story G&G, and they're probably the only one I can think of. Romance can only screw things up, especially since ice dancers are usually hot. Hard not to have a wandering eye!:biggrin:
 

BlackPack

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man, i feel like you gotta reassess your definition of fairy tale

Minus the heart attack part ;) Falling in love in their teens, winning gold in just about every competition, being breathtakingly beautiful, being regarding as the greatest in the history of their field, making a fortune skating in shows, having a lovely daughter.... come on - who has that?
 

hyperinflation

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Minus the heart attack part ;) Falling in love in their teens, winning gold in just about every competition, being breathtakingly beautiful, making a fortune skating in shows, having a lovely daughter.... come on - who has that?

idk, i'd take having a mediocre career over dying but that's just me
 

Kitt

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Marie-France Dubreil and her husband Patrice ? are still together and coaching/choreographing.
 

Ryan O

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Marie-France Dubreil and her husband Patrice ? are still together and coaching/choreographing.

Yes, and so are Meagan Wing & Aaron Lowe. But these tend to be the exceptions to the rule. Sale & Pelletier got divorced, for example, and long-term off-ice couple Marcoux & Buntin split up eventually, too.

But yes, as mentioned above, there is an enormous amount of emotional and financial investment made into skating partnerships over the course of a career, and your lives become intertwined for many years, whether you are a romantic couple, close friends or just professional partners.
 

hyperinflation

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lol sale/pelletier was never gonna last, i could not roll my eyes harder when they started shoving that 'canada's sweethearts' crap down our throats in 2002. did people forget he left his first wife for jamie or that he was a ginormous douchecanoe or...
 
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