Well actually Yuna lost points in the short once again on her StSq and lay back spin---both level 3s. StSq was worth a point less than Adelina's. I guess the judges wanted her to cartwheel and spin on her head or something. Yuna also got lower GOEs pretty much across the board. So yeah, the TES of Yuna's triple triple was like 2 points higher. But with all those little details judges have opportunities to nick scores and boost others, thus triple toe Adelina wins the OGM by 6 points.
Analyzing Sotnikova and Kim's footwork in the FS
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Nice argument. LOL, so transparent.
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speaking of transparency..
http://s24.postimg.org/ty7nk50l1/capture2.jpg
http://s24.postimg.org/6y107t2r9/capture1.jpg
mission accomplished..
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Doesn't seem like they were trying to hide anything, which I think they would be if they were cheating. If I were cheating I'd be as discreet as possible.
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Yes, and when Ken Ham, a former high school science teacher, tells me the universe is 6000 years old, I should believe him too. Authority is infallible.
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Anonymous judging already hid any cheating that was done.
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what for?? just show the entire world the undying happiness that one of your own won.. after all it is anonymous..
Unless you were a Russian judge in Russia in a corruptible sport with anonymous scoring.
Just ignore the troll. He thinks posting the same pointless pictures over and over would make him sound sane.
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My eyebrow was raising higher and higher with every slide I read that google doc, but I just stopped reading when whoever who made the slideshow tried to "prove" that BOTH 3Ts in Sotnikova's SP 3T-3T combination were under-rotated. I can understand why people think the 3Lz-3T in the LP was suspicious, but the SP 3T-3T was literally one of the biggest I've ever seen! The first 3T practically finished rotating almost a foot off the ice and the second was nearly as high!
Sorry, cuon_alpinus, it's really hard to take the slideshow with even a modicum of seriousness after that.
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Let me just clarify my opinion about Yuna's FS this year. She was off that day and many people, who are not her hatters, said they felt she was flat, still graceful but less exciting, including me.
I don't mean to bash or belittle Yuna, but personally I think her FS this year is her weakest programs since Vancouver, thanks to David Wilson. Her SP program was not that exceptional comparing to her previous ones either.
How many times I have to say this over and over again, that lots of people who are not her hatters have the feeling that Yuna's performance that day was not the strongest?
Even at the beginning of the season, people had stated Mao has the strongest programs of all the ladies. Had she skated in the last group, with that performance, there would be no way her score would be lower than 145, and no way lower than anyone if the score were fair even though she wouldn't medal.
And Caro even got higher PCS than Mao in worlds, which was rightfully deserved her skating skills is undoubtedly the best, despite her inconsistence. And frankly, she was more charming on the ice than most ladies.
There is one most important point you all forgot:
From what I understand, figure skating is scored based on LIVE performance, not repeated video clips. And the judges give the scores based on the performance they have just watched right away, they only 3-5 minutes to review all the elements and execution.
If you fail to impress the judges right away at that exactly moment, then it's your disadvantage. Because the judges have no time to rewatch your program a hundred/thousand times like your fans. They only watch you perform live once and give out the score only once.
So obviously the first impression is the most important because that is the only time they judge you!
You chose a less bright and exciting music than other, a so so choreography (not your fault anyway) and perform it on the day you were little bit off (partly because of the hostile crowd)---> it's so obvious why some people think you were flat.
Remember, judges watch it once time, and 3-4 minutes to review, not a thousand times to absorb the so-called deep meaning/sorrowful/sentiment that you want to express and expect them to understand because they have no time to see it's there in your program.
Figure skating is the sport/art of only one time impression.
Overall I think Adelina was overscored and Kim/Kostner were robbed, but there would be no way I can rearrange my feeling and overall impression of the ladies event that day.
Kim was off, still exceptional graceful, outstanding consistent but less exciting.
Kostner was more charming than all the ladies.
Adelina was the most energetic and exciting to watch.
And last but not least, Mao was the most emotional and moving of that day. And if you know about the history of Rachmaninov concerto no 2 which he composed it after a long break down with suicidal attempt, numerous times visiting mental Psychiatrist because of a series of previous failures, you would understand that Mao was the most expressive skater that day. The background of that music matched her situation wholeheartedly.
Yes, the judging was rigged it's obviously seems so, I agree. But it's not only Yuna who was placed unfairly. You can't write these skaters off just because you feel your idol was the best. There are people who think other skaters moved them more. Simply as that.
And I am not the only one who think Yuna was also off that day, compare to other skaters who also skated their hearts out.
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I was saying the scores were obviously rigged. I have no doubt that it was rigged. But I disagree that you have to place Yuna on the first of free skate to prove that the scores were rigged.
Other skaters also displayed their qualities that should be appreciated as well. Write them off simply because you feel your idol was rigged, no, I don't buy that.
Eh, I don't think the judge hugging Sotnikova means anything at all. That aside, they should have a rule where judges don't make contact with skaters while still on competition premises. It doesn't paint the best picture, even if it doesn't signify anything.
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eh.. someone called me a troll.. and i believe that mao should have won the LP.. but she was still 7 points behind than the flawed adelina..
i like kostner's skating.. her presence and elegance on the ice.. she did have 1 extra triple than yuna but i cannot put her above yuna because she didn't have a 3-3 in the LP.. no wonder why she changed it in japan.. just to beat mao.. and look what happened..
yuna's LP in sochi is not her greatest.. but i will prefer it more than her les mis program.. i see a mature yuna in adios..it's a difficult music to skate.. at least she didn't chicken out with the program.. as it's not your typical tango..
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oh.. yeah.. she had the decency to hug yuna backstage in vancouver.. oh wait..
look how baranova was so emotional while watching alla..- Status
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