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I love that Elena doesn't fail to satisfy our curiosity with lots of picturesit seems like they have a nice + fun training group! http://instagram.com/p/pE6TgkqBqo/
Yes! Anna also http://instagram.com/p/pE6t-qkmxp/
Elena Ilinykh & Ruslan Zhiganshin
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Yes! Anna also http://instagram.com/p/pE6t-qkmxp/
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Its a shame Anna is so tall because she and Ruslan actually look nice together. Well she is in a very good partnership so not complaining
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Its a shame Anna is so tall because she and Ruslan actually look nice together. Well she is in a very good partnership so not complaining
You're right though. They look so good together and I wouldn't mind Mozgov with Elena.
Now that would be a shock for a lot of people.
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You're right though. They look so good together and I wouldn't mind Mozgov with Elena.
Now that would be a shock for a lot of people.
Ilinykh is too short for Mozgov although they would have been an interesting couple if they matched physically. In an interview with Simonenko, he talked about why he went through 4 partners before Yanovskaya and he mentioned that he dumped Kosygina because she was too short. And he doesn't seem to like it if his partner is older than him.
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I can't blame him for that. Although he looks older (maybe because he is tall) but they are good match with Anna.
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http://fsrussia.ru/intervyu/89-kust...i-rebyata-zaryadili-vsekh-svoej-energiej.html - Interview with Kustarova
Decided to translate some parts about the new programms. Unforunately, don't have enough time to translate the whole interview...
Короткий танец вы поставили на музыку Бизе «Кармен».
Эта идея принадлежала Лене. Мы консультировались с нашими техническими специалистами, можно ли эту музыку интерпретировать для короткого танца этого сезона, и когда получили положительный ответ, то другой вариант даже не рассматривали.
In short dance you used the music of George Bizet "Carmen".
This was Elena's idea. We consulted our technical specialists if this music could be interpretated for this year's short dance and when we got a positive answer, we didn't even consider other options.
Будете использовать классическое произведение или вариант в современной обработке?
В принципе, мы взяли классический вариант. Но над ним поработали музыкальные редакторы, чтобы музыка была в ритме пасодобля. Компоновку музыкальных отрывков обсуждали с Антонио Нахарро. В итоге остановились на достаточно интересном варианте, но пока все секреты раскрывать не стану.
Отмечу только, что образы из «Кармен» очень идут и Лене и Руслану, ведь еще один главный плюс этой пары, что ребята безумно музыкальные. О Лене не надо и говорить. Что касается Руслана, то он -- один из немногих партнеров, который способен очень тонко чувствовать и выражать музыку. Это большая находка, когда соединились два таких танцевальных человека.
Are you going to use the classical version or the modern version?
Well, we took the classical one. But it was changed by our musical editors, so that it would be in the rhythm of paso doble. We have discussed this process with Antonio Naharro. At the end, we came to a very interesting variant, but we are not going to tell all the secrets now. I just want to point out that the characters of Carmen really suit both Lena and Ruslan because one of the advantages of this pair is that both of them are very musical. No need to speak about Lena(because we all now). But if we speak about Ruslan, then he is one of those partners, who can feel and express music very well. This is a big finding, that two such musical(i guess she means expressive) people have become a pair.
Как признанный мастер фламенко, Нахарро привнесет в программу специфические движения?
Конечно. Пасодобль - обязательный танец. Мы не можем интерпретировать шаги обязательного танца, но характер танца показать должны. Естественно, вместе с фламенко, другими какими-то наработками, которые уже сделаны. Это очень большая работа, работа, которая необходима, потому что в новом сезоне ребята хотят заявить о себе с большой буквы, чтобы поддержать наши российские танцы на мировом уровне, раз уж сложилась такая ситуация.
К работе над программами были приглашены и другие специалисты - по поддержкам, бальным танцам... Не только российские, но и иностранцы.
As a master of flamenco, will Naharro bring some specific movements to the programm?
Of course. Paso doble is an obligotory dance. We cannot interpet(change) the steps of an obligotory dance, but we have to show the character. Of course, together with flamenco and other things that we have already done. This is a big amount of wok, which is needed,because in the new season Lena and Ruslan want to show themselves very well from the very beginning, in order to support russian ice dance on a world class level. We have invited a wide range of specialists - for lifts, ballroom dance specialists - to work on new programms. Not only russians, but also foreigners.
О произвольной программе рассказать не хотите?
Скажу только, что на протяжении вот уже трех лет мы работаем с Ильей Авербухом. Он ставил программы Вике и Руслану. И дал согласие продолжить работу с нашим новым дуэтом. Как заявил сам Илья, сотрудничество с Леной Ильиных и Русланом для него даже интереснее.
К Илье все мы относимся с огромным уважением и симпатией, потому что считаем его одним из лучших российских постановщиков. Понимаете, это человек очень тонкой организации души, тонкого понимания музыки, программ, поэтому и новая произвольная программа Лены и Руслана получилась очень душевная.
Don't you want to tell a little bit about the free dance?
All I will say now is that we have been working with Ilya Averbukh for 3 years now. He has done programms for Vika and Ruslan. He agreed to continue working with our new duet. As Ilya said, co-work with Lena and Ruslan is even more interesting for him. We respect Ilya and really like him as we think he is one of the best russian's choreograohers now. You know, this person has very delicate soul, delicate understaning of music, programms, and that is why the new free dance of Lena and Ruslan turned out to be very touching and sentimental.
Decided to translate some parts about the new programms. Unforunately, don't have enough time to translate the whole interview...
Короткий танец вы поставили на музыку Бизе «Кармен».
Эта идея принадлежала Лене. Мы консультировались с нашими техническими специалистами, можно ли эту музыку интерпретировать для короткого танца этого сезона, и когда получили положительный ответ, то другой вариант даже не рассматривали.
In short dance you used the music of George Bizet "Carmen".
This was Elena's idea. We consulted our technical specialists if this music could be interpretated for this year's short dance and when we got a positive answer, we didn't even consider other options.
Будете использовать классическое произведение или вариант в современной обработке?
В принципе, мы взяли классический вариант. Но над ним поработали музыкальные редакторы, чтобы музыка была в ритме пасодобля. Компоновку музыкальных отрывков обсуждали с Антонио Нахарро. В итоге остановились на достаточно интересном варианте, но пока все секреты раскрывать не стану.
Отмечу только, что образы из «Кармен» очень идут и Лене и Руслану, ведь еще один главный плюс этой пары, что ребята безумно музыкальные. О Лене не надо и говорить. Что касается Руслана, то он -- один из немногих партнеров, который способен очень тонко чувствовать и выражать музыку. Это большая находка, когда соединились два таких танцевальных человека.
Are you going to use the classical version or the modern version?
Well, we took the classical one. But it was changed by our musical editors, so that it would be in the rhythm of paso doble. We have discussed this process with Antonio Naharro. At the end, we came to a very interesting variant, but we are not going to tell all the secrets now. I just want to point out that the characters of Carmen really suit both Lena and Ruslan because one of the advantages of this pair is that both of them are very musical. No need to speak about Lena(because we all now). But if we speak about Ruslan, then he is one of those partners, who can feel and express music very well. This is a big finding, that two such musical(i guess she means expressive) people have become a pair.
Как признанный мастер фламенко, Нахарро привнесет в программу специфические движения?
Конечно. Пасодобль - обязательный танец. Мы не можем интерпретировать шаги обязательного танца, но характер танца показать должны. Естественно, вместе с фламенко, другими какими-то наработками, которые уже сделаны. Это очень большая работа, работа, которая необходима, потому что в новом сезоне ребята хотят заявить о себе с большой буквы, чтобы поддержать наши российские танцы на мировом уровне, раз уж сложилась такая ситуация.
К работе над программами были приглашены и другие специалисты - по поддержкам, бальным танцам... Не только российские, но и иностранцы.
As a master of flamenco, will Naharro bring some specific movements to the programm?
Of course. Paso doble is an obligotory dance. We cannot interpet(change) the steps of an obligotory dance, but we have to show the character. Of course, together with flamenco and other things that we have already done. This is a big amount of wok, which is needed,because in the new season Lena and Ruslan want to show themselves very well from the very beginning, in order to support russian ice dance on a world class level. We have invited a wide range of specialists - for lifts, ballroom dance specialists - to work on new programms. Not only russians, but also foreigners.
О произвольной программе рассказать не хотите?
Скажу только, что на протяжении вот уже трех лет мы работаем с Ильей Авербухом. Он ставил программы Вике и Руслану. И дал согласие продолжить работу с нашим новым дуэтом. Как заявил сам Илья, сотрудничество с Леной Ильиных и Русланом для него даже интереснее.
К Илье все мы относимся с огромным уважением и симпатией, потому что считаем его одним из лучших российских постановщиков. Понимаете, это человек очень тонкой организации души, тонкого понимания музыки, программ, поэтому и новая произвольная программа Лены и Руслана получилась очень душевная.
Don't you want to tell a little bit about the free dance?
All I will say now is that we have been working with Ilya Averbukh for 3 years now. He has done programms for Vika and Ruslan. He agreed to continue working with our new duet. As Ilya said, co-work with Lena and Ruslan is even more interesting for him. We respect Ilya and really like him as we think he is one of the best russian's choreograohers now. You know, this person has very delicate soul, delicate understaning of music, programms, and that is why the new free dance of Lena and Ruslan turned out to be very touching and sentimental.
Wow, thank you MsLiinaLii for the speedy and great translation of the interview!!
I've always been a fan of the Carmen music, even though it has been used quite a bit! It is obviously a very good piece of latin style music, so I'm excited for this! I'm sure that with Naharro choreographing, this will turn out quite well. And the music and characters I agree suit Ruslan and Elena well. Can't wait to see this short dance!!
Does this mean that they already finished the FD and now are working on the SD?
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Yes. I think so too.
Also, from the part that I haven' trantslated:
"Хореограф приедет к нам в августе, потому что, как он сказал, хочет довести программу до логического конца, посмотреть «готовый продукт», когда все будет вкатано, чтобы отшлифовать нюансы танца."
Antonio Naharro will come back in August, because he said that he wanted to lead the programm to a logical ending, to see the "ready product", when everything will be rehearsed, so that he could make the final touches to the dance.
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:yay: YAY!!!!!! I am literally SO EXCUTED for them!!!!! Tbh, it sounds like things are coming along super well for them; and I can't wait to see them!!!!! Also, so not surprised that they're using "Carmen."
Also, so not surprised that they're using "Carmen."The rest of the interview is very interesting as well - she is realistic about how much work they have to do, but talks a lot about how well Elena & Ruslan get on, and how much drive & determination they have to suceed. She particularly mentions the allegations about Elena being lazy & says she has seen nothing of that
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Thank you so much MsLiinaLii and uhh 
I'm really glad to hear all that. Don't like Carmen at all, used to death, and even if it's a new version it was done by V&M.
So, I really would've preferred something completely new and original. Anyway, I hope they have done something beautiful.
I'm really glad to hear all that. Don't like Carmen at all, used to death, and even if it's a new version it was done by V&M.
So, I really would've preferred something completely new and original. Anyway, I hope they have done something beautiful.
Thank you so much MsLiinaLii and uhh
I'm really glad to hear all that. Don't like Carmen at all, used to death, and even if it's a new version it was done by V&M.
I too wished for something new but lets see. My only real concern is will B/S also be using Carmen? Because Dmitry did say that Katya could not play Carmen as a blond. Albeit Navka and many others have done it and maybe he just talking in a generic sense. If any elite teams had plans to use it, I'd say change and fast. JMHO. Lena ha sthis type of dance in the blood. Case in point her as a 9 year old; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjp3YLIjV7I
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The rest of the interview is very interesting as well - she is realistic about how much work they have to do, but talks a lot about how well Elena & Ruslan get on, and how much drive & determination they have to suceed. She particularly mentions the allegations about Elena being lazy & says she has seen nothing of that
Yes! I thought it was a great interview. K was really positive and IZ sound very promising - but K was still very realistic about everything, which I appreciate.
Alba Yeah, VM's "Carmen" is by far my favorite. But, I'm hoping that IZ will have a great SD "Carmen." I think as long as it suits them and they can sell it, then it will be fun to watch. I do admittedly get tired of certain musical choices, but I'm always on board if the program ends up being good.
Yeah I like that she's realistic, and I'm glad to hear that she is putting this rumors about Elena's work ethic to restYes! I thought it was a great interview. K was really positive and IZ sound very promising - but K was still very realistic about everything, which I appreciate.
Alba Yeah, VM's "Carmen" is by far my favorite. But, I'm hoping that IZ will have a great SD "Carmen." I think as long as it suits them and they can sell it, then it will be fun to watch. I do admittedly get tired of certain musical choices, but I'm always on board if the program ends up being good.
Navarro is a great choreographer so I have faith that they'll put up a comparable program. Can't wait! Does anyone know when we might find out what events they'll be competing this next season?
Yeah I like that she's realistic, and I'm glad to hear that she is putting this rumors about Elena's work ethic to rest
Navarro is a great choreographer so I have faith that they'll put up a comparable program. Can't wait! Does anyone know when we might find out what events they'll be competing this next season?
Grand Prix assignments are announced at the end of June. I'm hoping they'll also do a senior B, maybe Finlandia or Nebelhorn in September just so they get used to competing with each other & pick up some more ranking points so they can improve their starting draw for other events, but we won't find out about that until much closer to the events.
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If it's a "new" thing I'm all for it, and I do really hope that.
Lena certainly can be a great Carmen, and she is such a sweet Carmen in that video.
If B&S were planing doing Carmen I think they should change it yes. Not only because two couple is too much but I also think Carmen will suit more to I&Z rather than B&S.
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To be honest, I never feel like another rendition of "scheherezade," carmen," "bolero," "POTO," etc is new. I just feel like they're various interpretations of the same story - what makes someone doing those programs and being amazing at them is when they sell their performance and the program becomes theirs. So I just hope that since they're doing it (& VM has very recently had a fabulous carmen), that they do it well and make viewers feel their story.
:agree: Agreed! I hope that they take that route as well for the reasons you stated. Plus it's just another great way of previewing your programs to see how judges might feel about them that way tweaks can be made
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That's true, but what I mean for "new" is referred to the choreo and music version used.
V&M program for example was completely new Carmen, and very "modern". That's why I said that even that has been done by V&M, but we'll see. Maybe this SD will be great as well. If Najarro thinks that's good than I trust him.
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Good interview. She is pretty realistic and she avoids saying anything too insulting about Sinitsina.
Kustarova's skaters typically skate an exhibition at the end of their camp in Liepaja so Latvians may get a preview a month from now.
Kustarova's skaters typically skate an exhibition at the end of their camp in Liepaja so Latvians may get a preview a month from now.
