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Rank the winning Ladies performances at Worlds and Olympics for the last four years

pangtongfan

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Breaking it down by programs is a good idea. Here would be my objectively speaking top 10 programs in order:

Short programs

1. Mao Asada 2014 worlds
2. Yu Na Kim 2014 Olympics
3. Carolina Kostner 2014 worlds
4. Carolina Kostner 2014 Olympics
5. Yu Na Kim 2013 worlds
6. Yu Na Kim 2011 worlds
7. Miki Ando 2011 worlds
8. Carolina Kostner 2013 worlds
9. Alena Leonova 2012 worlds
10. Kanako Murakami 2012 worlds


Long programs

1. Mao Asada 2014 Olympics
2. Yu Na Kim 2013 worlds
3. Yu Na Kim 2014 Olympics
4. Carolina Kostner 2014 Olympics
5. Yu Na Kim 2011 worlds
6. Carolina Kostner 2013 worlds
7. Carolina Kostner 2012 worlds
8. Mao Asada 2013 worlds
9. Adelina Sotnikova 2014 Olympics
10. Akiko Suzuki 2012 worlds
 

VirMo

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Tangent, but I thought of making a thread like this for Ice Dance and realized it's just going to be between V/M and D/W...
 

CanadianSkaterGuy

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Breaking it down by programs is a good idea. Here would be my objectively speaking top 10 programs in order:

Short programs

1. Mao Asada 2014 worlds
2. Yu Na Kim 2014 Olympics
3. Carolina Kostner 2014 worlds
4. Carolina Kostner 2014 Olympics
5. Yu Na Kim 2013 worlds
6. Yu Na Kim 2011 worlds
7. Miki Ando 2011 worlds
8. Carolina Kostner 2013 worlds
9. Alena Leonova 2012 worlds
10. Kanako Murakami 2012 worlds

Seriously? An SP with a bad fall, the easiest 3-3 attempt (which should have been < at that), and a solo 3L. The SP is the "technical program"... so if we're talking the best SPs of the past 4 years, they'd better be clean performances with good difficulty, and certainly not an SP where 1 out of the 3 jumping passes is a major error like a fall. Especially if you're objectively speaking. Same goes for ranking Kim's 2011 Worlds SP with a stepout and no 3-3 over some of the others.

I'd put Murakami's 2012/2013 Worlds SPs, Leonova's Worlds 2012 SP, Makarova's 2011 Worlds SP, Osmond's 2013 Worlds SP, and Sotnikova's 2014 Olympics SP easily ahead of Kostner's 2013 Worlds SP and arguably ahead of Kim's 2011 Worlds SP.
 

Sandpiper

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Same with men, Just PChan and Yuzuru...
Not at all. Many consider Dai's 2012 Worlds performances and Ten's 2013 Worlds performances superior to Patrick's, hence the controversy. Also, 2014 Worlds was probably the best skated event of the quad, and Patrick wasn't there + Yuzu won only by a hair, and you can make a case for Machida winning. So I think there will be more to discuss there compared to ice dance in terms of all performances over the quad (though perhaps less if we're just talking about the winning performances, many of which were... underwhelming).
 

shiroKJ

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^ Well, if we're sticking to the topic of ranking the winning performances then it really is just Patrick and Yuzuru; much like V/T & D/W where both only had 2 different people/teams winning the past quad :p
 

Sandpiper

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Yeah, but it seems like this thread has drifted beyond winning performances. Many nominating Carolina's bronze performance in Sochi, Mao's free skate there, ect.

Is there really a lot to debate about, in terms of men's winning performances? Chan 2011 Worlds > Hanyu 2014 worlds > Chan 2012 Worlds > Hanyu 2014 Olympics > Chan 2013 Worlds. Maybe some debate about Chan 2011 vs. Hanyu 2014, but otherwise it's just descending order of sloppiness.
 

Blades of Passion

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Top 10's!

Short Programs:

1. Mao Asada 2014 Worlds
2. Carolina Kostner 2014 Worlds
3. Yu Na Kim 2014 Olympics
4. Julia Lipnitskaya 2014 Worlds
5. Akiko Suzuki 2014 Worlds
6. Yu Na Kim 2013 Worlds
7. Adelina Sotnikova 2014 Olympics
8. Kanako Murakami 2013 Worlds
9. Kanako Murakami 2012 Worlds
10. Gracie Gold 2014 Olympics

Long Programs:

1. Yu Na Kim 2013 Worlds
2. Mao Asada 2014 Olympics
3. Yu Na Kim 2014 Olympics
4. Adelina Sotniknova 2014 Olympics
5. Carolina Kostner 2014 Olympics
6. Ashley Wagner 2012 Worlds
7. Julia Lipnitskaya 2014 Worlds
8. Ashley Wagner 2014 Worlds
9. Carolina Kostner 2012 Worlds
10. Kanako Murakami 2013 Worlds
 

MiRé

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I'm confused. I thought we're suppose to rank the "winning" performance, aka programs that earned them 1st place. But i guess it's not???? :confused: :confused:
 

CanadianSkaterGuy

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I'm confused. I thought we're suppose to rank the "winning" performance, aka programs that earned them 1st place. But i guess it's not???? :confused: :confused:
I think the thread warped a bit into the top performances at Worlds/Olympics... of the 5 winning performances, I'd say:

1. Kim 2013 Worlds
2. Asada 2014 Worlds
3. Sotnikova 2014 Olympics
4. Ando 2011 Worlds (
5. Kostner 2012 Worlds (I'd rank her FS higher than Miki's but if we consider her SP+FS then I'd put her behind)
 

Kuan

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For me:
SP
1 Yuna Kim 2014 Sochi
2 Mao Asada 2014 WC
3 Kostner 2014 WC
4 Yuna Kim 2013 WC
5 Ando 2011 WC

FS
1 Yuna Kim 2013 WC
2 Mao Asada 2014 Sochi
3 Kostner 2014 Sochi
4 Yuna Kim 2014 Sochi
5 Lipnitskaya 2014 Sochi Team
 

Sam-Skwantch

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Take it with a grain of salt because of my fandom but to me....Yulia's CH is much better than Adelina's simply because she presents and emotes....maybe I should say relates her programs to the music much better. Yes she gets off time here and there but there is much more feeling IMHO. It still needs work but to me Adelina beats Yulia in jumps and SS but not CH and certainly not Interpretation. They both could use work on lots but Yulia's programs connect with the audience much better. It's just my opinion mind you :)
 

drivingmissdaisy

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Take it with a grain of salt because of my fandom but to me....Yulia's CH is much better than Adelina's simply because she presents and emotes....maybe I should say relates her programs to the music much better. Yes she gets off time here and there but there is much more feeling IMHO. It still needs work but to me Adelina beats Yulia in jumps and SS but not CH and certainly not Interpretation. They both could use work on lots but Yulia's programs connect with the audience much better. It's just my opinion mind you :)

Of course, you're always very polite in expressing your reasonable opinions :) I can see how people love Julia but her skating just doesn't resonate with me. I think we all are guilty, myself included, of overlooking our favorite skaters' flaws and weaknesses and being a little more critical of competitors but, as you prove, we can do it in a way that respects fellow posters and the skaters.
 

elif

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1. Kim 2013 Worlds
2. Sotnikova 2014 Olympics
3. Asada 2014 Worlds
4. Kostner 2012 Worlds
5. Ando 2011 Worlds
 

begin

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If this is still only about the winners:
SP
1. Asada 2014
---(gap)---
2. Kim 2013
3. Sotnikova 2014
4. Ando 2011
5. Kostner 2012

FS
1. Kim 2013
---(small gap)---
2. Asada 2014
3. Kostner 2012
4. Sotnikova 2014
5. Ando 2011
 
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For those who wish to continue fighting the Sochi judging wars, there are three open threads on this subject in the Olympics folder under 2013-14 Events -- 396 angry pages so far and counting. :cool:
 
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I don't know if we're allowed to go back to 2010, but YuNa's two programs still take my breath away. In more recent programs, Mao Asada's recent Olympic long program overshadowed just about everything else for me. It was stupendous. In ice dancing, just about anything by Virtue/Moir and Davis/White through this quadrennial (what a peak period for ice dancing!), but my special favorite will always be Davis/White's Die Fledermaus—any performance of it through that season.
 

skateluver

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SP
1. Asada 2014 (flawless)
2. Kim 2013 (boring, but well skated)
3. Sotnikova 2014 (not memorable, but well skated)
4. Ando 2011 (I actually really liked this program)
5. Kostner 2012

FS
1. Kim 2013 (flawless)
2. Asada 2014 (not as good as Olympics, but still good)
3. Sotnikova 2014 (mainly because of her technical content)
4. Kostner 2012 (technically easy)
5. Ando 2011 (Can't even remember this program??)

If we could include Mao's OLY FS that would be on the top of my list.
 
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