Ina Bauer move
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I prefer the second one way more. I hate ina bauers where the arms just flop down like somebody cut the power source to them. I get that it's a dramatic moment, I just don't find it particular elegant. I'd rather a skater held their arms in an actual position, rather than have "lazy" arms.
Hanyu:
The new better than old.
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Ick it's personal preference but I hate Hanyu's Inna Bauer (don't get me wrong I'm a fan of his otherwise). His leg positions are awful it looks like he's dragging the hind leg
I feel exactly the opposite: I adore that first Ina Bauer because of how her arms fell. It fits perfectly with the music and the program she was skating. She didn't just do a technical element--she used it to tell a story.
Of course, I definitely don't want her to repeat the move for future programs. Divorced of its original intent, it would indeed look sloppy.
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I love it actually... reminds me of how Buttle used to do his.
I don't have a link but if you look on you tube at their 1979 Worlds long program near the end of the program they do a spread eagle into an inside ina bauer and then an outside ina bauer simply beautiful
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Thanks, Vicky458! :yay: Going there right now. Also, have you watched the performance in the link posted by Olympia upthread? It's Tai & Randy doing a fours exhibition w/ JoJo Starbuck/Ken Shelley. Marvelous.
Edit: found Tai/Randy on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63cmIfO-u6k
The spread eagle/Ina Bauer is just lovely and there's also a series of Arabians -- yummy!
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You're right about the disconnect that many people perceive between masculinity and gracefulness. That's one reason I love skating, because it has so many examples of men who are both. I also agree with you about the splendid effect of "what can happen when pairs teams stick together and with the same quality coach consistently." John Nicks was my first pairs coaching idol. I loved the smooth, jazzy, definitely western-hemisphere style that he imparted to Shelley and Starbuck and later to Tai and Randy. Both of these pairs had long careers, both as amateurs and pros. It was interesting that both the men never grew very tall, while both of the ladies did. The lifts that each pair did looked even more impressive to me because the guys had to be so strong. Tai and Randy were still skating when Cherkasova/Shakhrai were doing the gorilla-flea act with Sergei tossing twelve-year-old Marina into quadruple spinny things. The contrast was, as you can imagine, striking.
I was always fascinated to watch a pair or an ice dance couple do a move where just one of them (always the same one) did a spread eagle, and the other did not. The two examples I can remember are Berezhnaya/Sikharulidze (where she did a spread eagle with a lovely turnout) and Klimova/Ponomarenko (where, oddly, he was the one with the great turnout).
As for the skaters we're discussing now, I think I still prefer Curry and Wylie to Hanyu. They add more artistic maturity to the move. But I'm eagerly awaiting Yuzuru's artistic growth!
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Best Ina Bauer? Two Words: Yukina. Ota.
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I watch her skate & wonder what might've been...simply breathtaking...
Hanyu appears to pattern the hind leg position after Arakawa's. I remember he originally took on the move as a tribute to her, being the hometown hero and all.
At this stage with Yuzuru, we won't find Curry's ballet-trained grace or Wylie's overall refinement. He did however get more space in exhibitions ("Hana Ni Nare") to vary the arm movements, for a more nuanced character. Although it's not exactly an argument for "masculine grace" many look for
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Hanyu appears to pattern the hind leg position after Arakawa's. I remember he originally took on the move as a tribute to her, being the hometown hero and all.
At this stage with Yuzuru, we won't find Curry's ballet-trained grace or Wylie's overall refinement. He did however get more space in exhibitions ("Hana Ni Nare") to vary the arm movements, for a more nuanced character. Although it's not exactly an argument for "masculine grace" many look for
Androgynous grace is just fine with me.
So gorgeous! Thanks for posting this, Math.
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I came across this today and figured why not share it here.
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Perfection.
