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    Quote Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy View Post
    She could, but while she's great at a lot of things, Kostner tends to have fewer transitions in her programs than skaters like Alina (which is why Alina can match Caro's PCS). I can't think of any woman yet in the mold of Patrick and Yuzuru who really have it all, the ease of movement and artistry with the complex choreography and transitions between elements.
    But Kostners transitions are held well and done with quality. Alina is talented young lady, but some of her transitions in her competitive programs sometimes tend to look like a stumble or trying to keep a balance or it looks like she is unable to hold them.

    Sasha is special, she is anything but ladylike, she can sometimes come off as awkward. She can pull it off and will be loved by audience, she is growing into a good performer... but I think sometimes judges will not know what to do with her.

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    Speaking of quads, Trusova's 4T doesn't have a rough landing like last season anymore. Looks more stable and the height is impressive. This quad isn't bad at all. I would be glad if she ditch the "4lz", keep the 4T, and start to train seriously the 3A.

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    No, let her improve the 4Lz. I am hoping for a 4Lz-4T ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by yume View Post
    Speaking of quads, Trusova's 4T doesn't have a rough landing like last season anymore. Looks more stable and the height is impressive. This quad isn't bad at all. I would be glad if she ditch the "4lz", keep the 4T, and start to train seriously the 3A.
    I wonder what happened to her 4sal. And she also landed quad flip in practice.

    Her 4Lz is alright these days (she used to crash on it so badly that if I was her mother, I'd threaten to take away her skates if she ever attempts it again). But maybe messing her Lz-Loop combo though. Maybe her 3Lz is too high and fast rotated and it makes it hard to tack on another jump. Or maybe she is training 4loop? Who knows with Sasha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VenusHalley View Post
    I wonder what happened to her 4sal. And she also landed quad flip in practice.

    Her 4Lz is alright these days (she used to crash on it so badly that if I was her mother, I'd threaten to take away her skates if she ever attempts it again). But maybe messing her Lz-Loop combo though. Maybe her 3Lz is too high and fast rotated and it makes it hard to tack on another jump. Or maybe she is training 4loop? Who knows with Sasha.
    I would also love for Sasha to bring back the 4S instead of the 4Lz. She went into the sal with much less preparation time and it was better integrated into the program. She has a huge windup for the lutz which really takes her out of the program the entire length of the rink.

    She has greatly improved her entrances into her 4Ts, though. Of course the entrances cannot be classified as difficult (yet) but there is now at least choreography going on before both 4Ts. At this rate by next season she will be doing steps before the quad toe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. P View Post
    Having seems Alina and the 3A’s live, Alina really doesn’t have an advantage on the PCS side. The one That does is Alena K. Alina’s advantage before was never the PCS it was that she backloaded programs and was relatively consistent. It’s not really like Jason who truly can spit out points for those non jump/PCS points and has a clear distinction in those areas (and honestly it only takes him so far anyway.)
    Thank you, Mrs. P. I agree 100%. I love Alina and am so glad for her success, but her basic skating is not the best in the world, and I also would give Alena Kostornaia that distinction. Alina can't rely on unreal PCS since she really doesn't have it. She's wonderful of course, but when you see an AlenaK skate, you 'get' what crazy PCS scores should go to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yume View Post
    Speaking of quads, Trusova's 4T doesn't have a rough landing like last season anymore. Looks more stable and the height is impressive. This quad isn't bad at all. I would be glad if she ditch the "4lz", keep the 4T, and start to train seriously the 3A.
    I'm shocked she doesn't have a 3A yet. She clearly has the strength and speed to do it. And we've seen it off ice. I'd be surprised if we don't see it by the end of the season.

    A day after Alysa Liu lands the first 3A3T, Sofia Akatieva attempts it too. To me that indicates that the arms race is on, Eteri is watching the potential Olympic competition, and her girls will be pushing the 3A and 3A combos in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugar Coated View Post
    A day after Alysa Liu lands the first 3A3T, Sofia Akatieva attempts it too. To me that indicates that the arms race is on, Eteri is watching the potential Olympic competition, and her girls will be pushing the 3A and 3A combos in the future.
    They won't compete against each other until the season 2023-24. And their Olympic rivalry won't happen until 2026.

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    I'm shocked she doesn't have a 3A yet. She clearly has the strength and speed to do it. And we've seen it off ice. I'd be surprised if we don't see it by the end of the season.

    A day after Alysa Liu lands the first 3A3T, Sofia Akatieva attempts it too. To me that indicates that the arms race is on, Eteri is watching the potential Olympic competition, and her girls will be pushing the 3A and 3A combos in the future.

    It seems 3A is more about control versus rotation. Even some males find it harder to land than quads. I guess the forward take off is scarier?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VenusHalley View Post
    It seems 3A is more about control versus rotation. Even some males find it harder to land than quads. I guess the forward take off is scarier?
    I think 3A are easier for some people and quads are easier for others. It probably just depends on what your strongest jump is. Until this year ( Sasha's 2A has improved a lot) I always found Sasha's 2A one of her weakest jumps. So, of course, it is harder for her to learn 3A.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugar Coated View Post
    I'm shocked she doesn't have a 3A yet. She clearly has the strength and speed to do it. And we've seen it off ice. I'd be surprised if we don't see it by the end of the season.

    A day after Alysa Liu lands the first 3A3T, Sofia Akatieva attempts it too. To me that indicates that the arms race is on, Eteri is watching the potential Olympic competition, and her girls will be pushing the 3A and 3A combos in the future.
    It was stated and discussed many times.

    Sasha cannot jump face forward close to a corner. She has to train 3Ax in Tuktamisheva's style, in the middle. Problematic for her.

    Someone from Crystal Dome stated recently she does 3Ax in practice.
    I didn't read a credible source yet.

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    Regarding allowing quads in ladies SP.
    Trusova won Nepela absolute in LP, scoring a lot more than male skaters, but lost even more in SP due to limitations. Would she dare 4/3 and 4 in SP, even without 3Ax, she could have a medal in male tournament.

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