Thread: Evgenia Medvedeva

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    I disagree about two things. One, the pressure and secondly the challenger argument.

    1. It‘s not that Zhenya doesn‘t cope well with being the favourite. She does. Her two seasons on top should be proof enough for that. I mean, she entered the OG if not as THE favourite then at least a heavy, heavy co-favourite. I also don‘t think this was what caused her rough season this year. It was just like this: simply too much of everything. Mainly the media but also the coaching change, new country... She‘s only human, sometime everyone has to show some weakness. This season was a rebuilding year for her and I think the constant pressure and hate from the media only made it worse. I disagree that she skated well at Nationals in the FS because the pressure was off. Maybe this was a part of it, I don‘t know (still, I don‘t think so, RusNats is important to make the national team next year and get funding, so it‘s not like the place would have been totally irrelevant, especially not for Zhenya and all her additional expenses with training in Canada and all) but I believe that it was mainly because she‘d just been shown by the Russian spectators that she was still loved and admired. And Worlds? The pressure was on like it probably hasn‘t been before this season. She was sent over someone who had, inarguably, the better season. She needed to prove it was worth it. She did. But again, I don‘t think Zhenya‘s the type of skater who prefers to be the underdog. I think she‘s the type of skater who can compete in any situation as long as she believes in herself. Which was a matter last season.

    2. I do think she “needs“ to do a Challenger. As a Russian lady it‘s pretty much not guaranteed at all who makes the team or the GPF, there are 7 girls this season who have a chance. Zhenya may very well be one of them but she also may not. And then it‘s important that she has some solid SB in case she isn‘t sent to Worlds and Euros. The Challengers in Spring usually don‘t count for SB. And anyway, I think a Challenger before the GP series starts is always a good first opportunity to let professional judges take a look at the programs, test them in competition, get back into the competitive mindset. I think it‘s important to do at least one. And it‘s not like last year, she has more time, so why shouldn‘t she? Shanghai Open is nice but it‘s like Japan Open, isn‘t it? Only the FS will be skated. Also, ACI is a bit problematic, it‘s right around the time test skates are, so jet lag would be a challenge. I don‘t know what her and her team’s plan is but for now, I‘d say I‘d rather if she did a Challenger. It just seems safer before the GP. But she‘ll know what‘s best herself, I‘m sure of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanie19 View Post
    I think challengers are important for World standing points. So I do hope she does one.
    You‘re right, that too. I forgot WS.

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    I hope she goes to Shanghai Trophy. I believe the event is every two years and she has never competed in China.

    This year she is ready to compete. She only has her programs for 6 weeks or so before test skates. And getting a new routine in a new country it's amazing how well she did do. Now she is comfortable in her new environment.

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    In my opinion, it's absolutely necessary for Zhenya to do a challenger before GP season. They really do set the tone and momentum for the season. Liza and Rika weren't in much consideration at all last season until they did well and built momentum through challengers. Zhenya only did one last season and didn't score well for her standards, and that also set the standard for her last season, too. It's unfortunate, but I think it's pretty important.

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    I also think they need to do a challenger before the GP. I'm pretty sure there will be new combos/jump layouts (maybe a 4S if Zhenya is able to do it), so gotta try these things out before the harder competitions start

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    I think she knows what is right for her and will be ready. But nevertheless I'm very nervous about the next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Placebo11 View Post
    I think she knows what is right for her and will be ready. But nevertheless I'm very nervous about the next season.
    At this point I‘m mostly just really looking forward to the next season. Maybe I‘ll start to become a bit more anxious once competitions are really there but for now, I‘m just happy to see her skating again. She‘s shown last season that she can overcome anything and it taught me never to doubt her mental strength and determination again. Whatever happens, she will be fine. And we‘ll get to enjoy her beautiful skating + the new programs. (If we ever find out who did the FS, that is. )

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeDee18 View Post
    I also think they need to do a challenger before the GP. I'm pretty sure there will be new combos/jump layouts (maybe a 4S if Zhenya is able to do it), so gotta try these things out before the harder competitions start
    Whatever they do, I just hope they have a bit more consistent layout next season. It gave me nightmares last year when she basically went into every competition with a different one. For now I have no idea what she‘ll do regarding the layout. Whether she‘ll make changes or keep the same... Some have speculated she‘ll introduce 3Lz+3Lo in her SP next season with the 3F as the solo jump. I don‘t know what to think of that, if she can land it consistently, sure, why not, but if not... it‘s a big risk, considering there‘s the edge issue as well. But I guess we‘ll first see at test skates.

    Btw, team.moonbear has already planned to sit together just for them to cheer Zhenya on.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/Bzz2FUGo...d=egm6niqn9v7n

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    Based on the announcement the Shanghai trophy is SP and LP like a regular competition. I’m not sure if the scores will count for SB or not. I think it would be great if she went!

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    Sorry I should have clarified. I don’t mean competitive pressure, I think this is a lot of what drives her and that is always on. That fighting/competitive spirit is so much of who she is. I mean the pressure of expectations and needing a certain outcome/result. I think the two events I discussed and the cup of Russia (I think that’s what the competition was called) indicate that with the pressure in the sense of expectations being lifted she skated for herself. I was trying to express that last season there was a lot of pressure on her to do a certain thing, then when that pressure started to slip away and people started to count her out of the winning, she started skating for herself again. I think that is why she did so well in previous seasons also. Being the underdog is a good position, it gives her room to prove to herself that she can beat her competitors whilst not being explicitly expected to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkateSkates View Post
    Based on the announcement the Shanghai trophy is SP and LP like a regular competition. I’m not sure if the scores will count for SB or not. I think it would be great if she went!
    Really? That would be nice. I looked and the last time it was held it seemed like only the FS part of the competition was skated, though. Maybe I looked wrongly. It would certainly be great if she went. She‘s never competed in China before, has she?

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    Quote Originally Posted by laybackrelaxspinfast View Post
    Do you think coming in as the underdog this season will do her some good? She should have very little to no pressure from the fed/her team/herself/media. She can’t lose Russia any spots because the field is oversaturated by Russians. The four who everyone has their eyes on have immense pressure on them. It happened at worlds, the pressure was off and she delivered. When the pressure came off at Russian nationals for the fs she delivered. Couple that with her having had more time to grow into her new environment and solidify her new technique. Could we optimistically say this might be her strongest season yet?
    There is plenty of reason to be optimistic. Especially about Zhenya being more comfortable and better than last season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunalovesskating View Post
    This makes me happy. Can‘t wait to see how her skating skills will have improved after another summer at TCC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunalovesskating View Post
    OMG she's literally posing!! and her hair looks done up. I love our queen

    Ps I didn't even notice Jason Zhenya is literally centre of attention

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunalovesskating View Post
    I thought Zhenya was the teacher at first

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    Zhenya posted her Free Skate!!!

    https://www.instagram.com/p/Bz1B-zNB...d=sn0i8r5y8ejf
    Choreo by Shae-Lynn Bourne

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    OMG, finally!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunalovesskating View Post
    Zhenya posted her Free Skate!!!

    https://www.instagram.com/p/Bz1B-zNB...d=sn0i8r5y8ejf
    Choreo by Shae-Lynn Bourne
    Yay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunalovesskating View Post
    Zhenya posted her Free Skate!!!

    https://www.instagram.com/p/Bz1B-zNB...d=sn0i8r5y8ejf
    Choreo by Shae-Lynn Bourne
    Evgenia and Shae-Lynn Bourne! Dreams do come true!

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