2014 Skate Canada Mens SP 10/31

dorispulaski · Oct 20, 2014

Men's Short Program is scheduled for 4:15 pm Eastern time October 31

Skating Order

Warmup Group 1

1 Liam FIRUS CAN
2 Andrei ROGOZINE CAN
3 Stephen CARRIERE USA
4 Florent AMODIO FRA
5 Adam RIPPON USA

Warm Up Group 2

6 Takahiko KOZUKA JPN
7 Konstantin MENSHOV RUS
8 Max AARON USA
9 Michal BREZINA CZE
10 Takahito MURA JPN
11 Javier FERNANDEZ ESP

Schedule including projected start time for each skater:
http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpcan2014/gpcan2014_Men_SP_TimeSchedule.pdf

Summary results:
http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpcan2014/SEG001.HTM

Protocol :
http://www.isuresults.com/results/gpcan2014/gpcan2014_Men_SP_Scores.pdf

Videos here (Practices & Fluffs Up Now):
http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?52494-2014-Skate-Canada-Videos-and-Results

Interspectator · Oct 28, 2014

Predictions are going to be a mess for the men's competition.
There are so many talented skaters here but all of them tend to bomb badly and are unpredictable.
--I'm a fan of most of these guys so here's to hoping for a great day of skating when the 31st rolls around.

karne · Oct 29, 2014

Newbiespectator said:
Predictions are going to be a mess for the men's competition.
There are so many talented skaters here but all of them tend to bomb badly and are unpredictable.
--I'm a fan of most of these guys so here's to hoping for a great day of skating when the 31st rolls around.

Don't pick like I do.

USFSA Fantasy Skating:

Men's A pick: Max
Men's B pick: Kostya
Men's C pick: Carrierre

Yes, yes, I'm an idiot. Or just have rock-solid faith in Max that he will have the SOHL, Javier will forget to count again, Kozuka will have an off-day, and Mura will...idk, do a Jeremy.

Also no Chan, so the winner of the men's might actually deserve it this year.

Meoima · Oct 29, 2014

If Javi zayaks again in this competition, I would give up on his ability to count. Does he even has it in the first place I am in doubt, though.

Kozuka didn't just have an off-day in JO. He was struggling with a new blade by that time. Who knows if he has gotten used to it by now, I am not sure.

This event might be a mess, though. With zayak and off-day. :sarcasm:

karne · Oct 29, 2014

Oh, and now I've actually remembered an actually important question:

What city should I use for reference when doing my time zone conversions? Vancouver?

unico · Oct 29, 2014

karne said:
Oh, and now I've actually remembered an actually important question:

What city should I use for reference when doing my time zone conversions? Vancouver?

Yes, both Vancouver and Kelowna are in the Pacific Time Zone (UTC-08:00).

karne · Oct 29, 2014

shingalas said:
Yes, both Vancouver and Kelowna are in the Pacific Time Zone (UTC-08:00).

Men's SP at just after 7am my time...perfect, actually.

silverfoxes · Oct 29, 2014

I think Javier will be just fine even if he does make 1-2 major errors. If Skate America is any indication, most (if not all) of the other men will have issues, too.

If Konstantin skates like he did at the Russian qualifiers last week, he could easily make the podium...but that's a huge "if." I would LOVE for him to be up there.

Sabrina · Oct 29, 2014

Had Kevin Reynolds quit/retired? Any reason, other than the boots? Nam Nguyen, why not? Just because he skated in Chicago?

dorispulaski · Oct 29, 2014

Because he
1. Is a Canadian, replacing another Canadian, and it is the Canadian fed who issues invitations to Skate Canada.
2. Because he medalled at SkAm, and so has a chance at the GPF.

Why wouldn't SC select him to skate at SC???

If you mean whether he might medal or not, he didn't just skate well in Chicago, he had a clean FS. The SP? Not so good, but he seems to have a good head for competition. And he landed both a qu and 3a's.

ice coverage · Oct 29, 2014

Sabrina said:
Had Kevin Reynolds quit/retired? Any reason, other than the boots? Nam Nguyen, why not? Just because he skated in Chicago?

(1) Kevin Reynolds has not quit/retired. He intends to compete at Nationals. The press release re his GP withdrawals cites injury as well as equipment issues.

http://www.skatecanada.ca/2014/10/kevin-reynolds-withdraws-from-skate-canada-international/

(2) Not sure what your question/point is re Nam Nguyen, but FYI, he received two GP assignments when the original batch for this season was announced. His second GP is Cup of China.

http://www.skatecanada.ca/2014/06/o...line-2014-skate-canada-international-kelowna/

Sabrina · Oct 29, 2014

Thank you both for the answers! I really like Kevin, but at this moment I am not sure of anything. Hopefully he manages to come to the Canadian nationals. As for Nam, I think he is Canada's number 1, right now. I guess only Patrick Chan could easily beat Nam, but Patrick is, at least temporary, out. I find it difficult to say, but apparently he has no real competition in Canada. I hope I am wrong, and Kevin, Eladj come out very strong...that's not impossible. Liam and Andrei are even further away...it's weird as Nam is only 16...

Meoima · Oct 29, 2014

Sabrina said:
Thank you both for the answers! I really like Kevin, but at this moment I am not sure of anything. Hopefully he manages to come to the Canadian nationals. As for Nam, I think he is Canada's number 1, right now. I guess only Patrick Chan could easily beat Nam, but Patrick is, at least temporary, out. I find it difficult to say, but apparently he has no real competition in Canada. I hope I am wrong, and Kevin, Eladj come out very strong...that's not impossible. Liam and Andrei are even further away...it's weird as Nam is only 16...

It's not weird if Nam delivers clean programs at Nationals. I believe he will. But of course at the moment I still think a clean Kevin (or nearly clean) should be placed higher than Nam.

Sandpiper · Oct 30, 2014

Imo, Kevin is the only person who can challenge Nam at Nationals. The rest of the Canadian men are, well... just not good enough. In order for Nam to lose nationals, one of the following must happen: 1) Kevin sorts out his problems and skates near-clean 2) Nam bombs spectacularly 3) Patrick shows up.

Onto the GP: This time, for my predictions, I've chosen with my heart rather than my head. Not sure if it'll work out for me, but it's not like my conservative SkAm predictions were all that great either. Still wondering if I should edit out my optimism about Aaron and Kozuka...

karne · Oct 30, 2014

Sandpiper said:
Imo, Kevin is the only person who can challenge Nam at Nationals. The rest of the Canadian men are, well... just not good enough. In order for Nam to lose nationals, one of the following must happen: 1) Kevin sorts out his problems and skates near-clean 2) Nam bombs spectacularly 3) Patrick shows up.

Onto the GP: This time, for my predictions, I've chosen with my heart rather than my head. Not sure if it'll work out for me, but it's not like my conservative SkAm predictions were all that great either. Still wondering if I should edit out my optimism about Aaron and Kozuka...

Nope, your optimism about Max is well-placed, I'm sure of it! :yay:

Jackie Wong agrees with us: she's picked Fernandez, Aaron, Kozuka as her podium.

phaeljones · Oct 30, 2014

karne said:
Don't pick like I do.

USFSA Fantasy Skating:

Men's A pick: Max
Men's B pick: Kostya
Men's C pick: Carrierre

Yes, yes, I'm an idiot. Or just have rock-solid faith in Max that he will have the SOHL, Javier will forget to count again, Kozuka will have an off-day, and Mura will...idk, do a Jeremy.

Also no Chan, so the winner of the men's might actually deserve it this year.

Max will win!!!!!!!! Then I differ. Fernandez second (all he has to do is learn to count to two, which should be good enough to edge him into second) and Rippon third.

I wonder as it ever happened before that a host country's skaters in a singles discipline, such as men's, have come in (as a group) last (you know like, say, 10th and 11th). Somewhat of a possibility here. I have to think that a few people at Skate Canada (not at fault, they did everything right in their original choice to invite Reynolds to headline based on his senior status and his having been their top skater at world's last year) would be a bit embarrassed if that happened. I feel badly for Reynolds, however, given his track record now, unless he really comes back and skates lights out at Nationals this year, Skate Canada would be right to abandon having any faith in him in the future. Hurts to write that.

karne · Oct 30, 2014

phaeljones said:
Max will win!!!!!!!! Then I differ. Fernandez second (all he has to do is learn to count to two, which should be good enough to edge him into second) and Rippon third.

Oh, I like this podium, let's do that.

Just to quickly explain: In USFSA Fantasy Skating, they seperate the competitors into "groups", and you have to pick one from each group. So Group A for men at Skate Canada is Max, Kozuka, Javier, and Mura, Group B is Menshov, Rippon etc, and then Group C is Carriere, Firius and Balde (I think).

(The worst moment of the whole last season was logging into Fantasy Skating for US Nationals and discovering Max, Josh and Jason ALL in Group A. I nearly died. Then Josh got demoted to Group B and it got marginally better. Almost.)

Meoima · Oct 30, 2014

Lol this is going to be fun. I love Javi but I highly doubt his ability to count. I also think Max have the highest chance to win, Javi second (oh please I think he can still count from 1 to 2-3).

ice coverage · Oct 30, 2014

karne said:
Nope, your optimism about Max is well-placed, I'm sure of it! :yay:

Jackie Wong agrees with us: she's picked Fernandez, Aaron, Kozuka as her podium.

Go, Max! :yay: (And go, Liam!)

(p.s. Jackie Wong is a man. "He is a former U.S. Figure Skating judge," per his bio: http://www.examiner.com/figure-skating-in-national/jackie-wong.)

phaeljones · Oct 30, 2014

karne said:
Oh, I like this podium, let's do that.

Just to quickly explain: In USFSA Fantasy Skating, they seperate the competitors into "groups", and you have to pick one from each group. So Group A for men at Skate Canada is Max, Kozuka, Javier, and Mura, Group B is Menshov, Rippon etc, and then Group C is Carriere, Firius and Balde (I think).

(The worst moment of the whole last season was logging into Fantasy Skating for US Nationals and discovering Max, Josh and Jason ALL in Group A. I nearly died. Then Josh got demoted to Group B and it got marginally better. Almost.)

Thank you. Now I understand the groups. Your choices make good sense.

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