2015-16 Grand Prix Final Ladies SP

dorispulaski · Dec 2, 2015

10 - 13 Dec 2015

Barcelona Spain
LADIES SHORT PROGRAM
Friday, December 11, 21:55 (UTC +1)

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Qual.#.	Name	Nation
1	Gracie GOLD	USA
	SP Tango: El Choclo by by Angel Villoldo; choreo by Lori Nichol LP Firebird by Igor Stravinski; choreo by Lori Nichol
	FAN FEST: http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?41286-Gracie-Gold
2	Evgenia MEDVEDEVA	RUS
	SP "Melodies of the White Night" soundtrack; choreo by Alexander Zhulin LP "Dance For Me Wallis" from the W.E. soundtrack by Abel Korzeniowski, "Allegro" by Renè Aubry, "Charms" from the W.E. soundtrack by Abel Korzeniowski; choreo by Ilya Averbukh & Igor Strelkin
	FAN FEST: http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?51695-Evgenia-Medvedeva
3	Satoko MIYAHARA	JPN
	SP: "Firedance" from "Riverdance" by Bill Whelan; choreo by Tom Dickson and Lori Nichol FS Un Sospiro by Franz Liszt; choreo by Tom Dickson and Lori Nichol
	FAN FEST: http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?52537-Satoko-Miyahara
4	Mao ASADA	JPN
	SP Bei Mir Bist du Schön; choreo by Lori Nichol LP Madame Butterfly by Giacomo Puccini; choreo by Lori Nichol
	FAN FEST: http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?38067-Mao-Asada
5	Elena RADIONOVA	RUS
	SP Je t'aime (vocals); choreo by Nikolai Morozov LP Titanic (Celine Dion); choreo by Nikolai Morozov
	FAN FEST: http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?40010-Elena-Radionova
6	Ashley WAGNER	USA
	SP Hip Chin Chin performed by Club des Belugas FS Diamonds (from "Moulin Rouge" soundtrack), One Day I'll Fly Away (from "Moulin Rouge" soundtrack), The Show Must Go On (from "Moulin Rouge" soundtrack
	FAN FEST: http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?39000-Ashley-Wagner

Jombi · Dec 9, 2015

(planned) BASE VALUE

1) bv 31,94 (USA) Ashley WAGNER (3F/3T, 3Lo*, 2A*) best season TES – 37,07
2) bv 32,84 (RUS) Elena RADIONOVA (3Lz/3T, 3Lo*, 2A*) best season TES – 38,44
3) bv 38,80 (JPN) Mao ASADA (3A, 3F/3Lo, 3Lz*) best season TES – 37,08 or (3A, 3F/2Lo, 3Lo*) bv.34.5
4) bv 33,06 (JPN) Satoko MIYAHARA (3Lz/3T, 3F*, 2A*) best season TES – 37,50
5) bv 33,06 (USA) Gracie GOLD (3Lz/3T, 3F*, 2A*) best season TES – 39,30
6) bv 33,10 (RUS) Evgenia MEDVEDEVA (3F/3T*, 2A*, 3Lo*) best season TES – 39,66

source neveitalia

...& STARTING ORDER

21:55 - 22:02 Warm-up Group 1
1) 22:02 - 22:09 Ashley WAGNER
2) 22:09 - 22:15 Elena RADIONOVA
3) 22:15 - 22:22 Mao ASADA
4) 22:22 - 22:28 Satoko MIYAHARA
5) 22:28 - 22:35 Evgenia MEDVEDEVA
6) 22:35 - 22:41 Gracie GOLD

mrrice · Dec 9, 2015

Jombi said:
(planned) BASE VALUE

1) bv 31,94 (USA) Ashley WAGNER (3F/3T, 3Lo*, 2A*) best season TES – 37,07
2) bv 32,84 (RUS) Elena RADIONOVA (3Lz/3T, 3Lo*, 2A*) best season TES – 38,44
3) bv 38,80 (JPN) Mao ASADA (3A, 3F/3Lo, 3Lz*) best season TES – 37,08 or (3A, 3F/2Lo, 3Lo*) bv.34.5
4) bv 33,06 (JPN) Satoko MIYAHARA (3Lz/3T, 3F*, 2A*) best season TES – 37,50
5) bv 33,06 (USA) Gracie GOLD (3Lz/3T, 3F*, 2A*) best season TES – 39,30
6) bv 33,10 (RUS) Evgenia MEDVEDEVA (3F/3T*, 2A*, 3Lo*) best season TES – 39,66

source neveitalia

...& STARTING ORDER

21:55 - 22:02 Warm-up Group 1
1) 22:02 - 22:09 Ashley WAGNER
2) 22:09 - 22:15 Elena RADIONOVA
3) 22:15 - 22:22 Mao ASADA
4) 22:22 - 22:28 Satoko MIYAHARA
5) 22:28 - 22:35 Evgenia MEDVEDEVA
6) 22:35 - 22:41 Gracie GOLD

I have a quick question for you. Isn't Gracie's Flip worth more than Evgenia's Loop? Am I wrong?

Jombi · Dec 9, 2015

mrrice said:
I have a quick question for you. Isn't Gracie's Flip worth more than Evgenia's Loop? Am I wrong?

Yes, you're right 5,83 (3F) vs 5,61 (3Lo). But Medvedeva puts the 3F+3T combo in the 2nd half of the program so she balances that out (spins and Stsq are planned level 4 for both of them so no difference there in term of bv).

Maybe I should have specified that the asterisk in my previous post means "2nd hal of the program"

Franklin99 · Dec 9, 2015

I won't be able to see the LP due to work (working on weekend suck), but atleast I'll get to see the SP live (if the links don't freeze on me).

mrrice · Dec 9, 2015

Jombi said:
Yes, you're right 5,83 (3F) vs 5,61 (3Lo). But Medvedeva puts the 3F+3T combo in the 2nd half of the program so she balances that out (spins and Stsq are planned level 4 for both of them so no difference there in term of bv).
Maybe I should have specify that the asterisk in my previous post means "2nd hal of the program"

Ohhhhhhh! I Totally get it now. She gets a bonus for doing it in the second half of her program. Well, good for her... :clap:

NaVi · Dec 9, 2015

Some media previews:

http://www.goldenskate.com/2015/12/2015-16-grand-prix-final-preview-ladies/
http://olympics.nbcsports.com/2015/...da-gracie-gold-ashley-wagner-women-ice-dance/
www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/winter/figureskating/grand-prix-figure-skating-final-preview-1.3357244
http://www.rockerskating.com/news/2...-final-preview-ladies-no-words-to-describe-it

Predictions thread: http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?57613-GP-Predictions-Rd-7-Grand-Prix-Final

Women’s Field (Best Grand Prix qualifying total score) (From NBC Article)
Yelena Radionova (211.32) — World bronze medalist
Yevgenia Medvedeva (206.76) — World junior champion
Satoko Miyahara (203.11) — World silver medalist
Gracie Gold (202.80) — Olympics, Worlds fourth-place finisher
Ashley Wagner (202.52) — Grand Prix Final bronze medalist
Mao Asada (197.48) — Three-time World champion

NaVi · Dec 10, 2015

I don't think that list really reflects much for a few reason(the biggest being a little inflation in the latter 3 events compared to the 1st 3 events... I don't mind it as I don't take raw scores all that seriously). I'm fascinated by the distributions of the predictions but am not going to participate in the predictions thread.

My personal power rankings(a mixture of scoring potential and probability) are:
Asada, Medvedeva
Gold(Higher or lower depending on how they call her flip.)
Radionova
Sotoko, Wagner

I think it's most likely the medalists will come from Asada, Medvedeva, Gold, and Radionova... but Sotoko as been the little engine that could a few times and Wagner has won a medal at the GPF 3 times in a row. I doubt Sotoko will be last.
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I wish Gold would do the 3Lo instead of the 3F as I don't think she has done a single 3F from an inside edge(or masquerades well as being on an inside edge) the entire season starting with her summer competitions. She popped the jump at the Japan Open and in her Skate America SP... both edges were clearly outside and the Eurosport guy mentions it on replay. Her 3F at Skate America is her best 3F of the season and it's still flat. Her 3F at TEB should have been an easy edge call.

Her 3F would not be a big deal except that instead of trying to minimize the impact of her 3F issues(and how the tech panel will call it) they inflate it by doing the 3F twice and once in combination. TBH, when I compare Gold's problem edge jump the rest of the field's(Mao's 3Lz, Wagner's 3Lz, Medvedeva's 3Lz, Sotoko's 3F, Radionova 3F) her's is the most obvious to me. Radionova does a 3Lo in her SP because she has issues with her flip edge and Radionova's flip edge issues were never as sever as Gracie's.

Globetrotter · Dec 10, 2015

NaVi said:
TBH, when I compare Gold's problem edge jump the rest of the field's(Mao's 3Lz, Wagner's 3Lz, Medvedeva's 3Lz, Sotoko's 3F, Radionova 3F) her's is the most obvious to me. Radionova does a 3Lo in her SP because she has issues with her flip edge and Radionova's flip edge issues were never as sever as Gracie's.

Interesting that the 6 ladies in the GP final can really be divided broadly between the flutzers (Mild to moderate Wagner, moderate Medvedeva and Mao) and lippers (Mild Radio / Satoko, obvious Gold).

breynows · Dec 10, 2015

I just dreamt that Ashley had a 3A planned on her FS...

These axels are killing me. :palmf:

Anni234 · Dec 10, 2015

No way, I have an exam at the time of the ladies SP, this is not happening.

3dsushi · Dec 10, 2015

If everyone is clean(I really hope it is) this is gonna be the standings tomorrow.
1. Gracie Gold
2. Evgenia Medvedeva
3. Elena Radionova
4. Satoko Miyahara
5. Mao Asada
6. Ashley Wagner

I want to put Satoko to 2nd but the judges always underscored her. And I can tell on her face she's not happy about it. I don't think she ever reached 70 on sp.

sabinfire · Dec 10, 2015

3dsushi said:
If everyone is clean(I really hope it is) this is gonna be the standings tomorrow.
1. Gracie Gold
2. Evgenia Medvedeva
3. Elena Radionova
4. Satoko Miyahara
5. Mao Asada
6. Ashley Wagner

A clean Mao Asada would be in 5th place? :scratch2:

How do you figure?

lavoix · Dec 10, 2015

This whole season is Asada's to lose.

Silvia451 · Dec 10, 2015

I hope I didn't ran out of luck for my favourites after Yuzu's new record and Ksenia/Fedor leading :laugh:

Go Mao and Gracie! :cheer:

Vili67 · Dec 10, 2015

Work all weekend but hope i can see at least FS in live stream.
My :2thumbs: are for mao and elena

Enidan · Dec 10, 2015

GOOOOOoooooo Diva Wagner :yahoo:

Franklin99 · Dec 10, 2015

3dsushi said:
If everyone is clean(I really hope it is) this is gonna be the standings tomorrow.
1. Gracie Gold
2. Evgenia Medvedeva
3. Elena Radionova
4. Satoko Miyahara
5. Mao Asada
6. Ashley Wagner

I want to put Satoko to 2nd but the judges always underscored her. And I can tell on her face she's not happy about it. I don't think she ever reached 70 on sp.

A clean SP with a 3A, 3F-3L, 3Lz, jump layout and top notch spins/stp-seq/footwork is only worth a #5 spot? What The Frak?! :confused2:

3dsushi · Dec 10, 2015

Franklin99 said:
A clean SP with a 3A, 3F-3L, 3Lz, jump layout and top notch spins/stp-seq/footwork is only worth a #5 spot? What The Frak?! :confused2:

Sorry for the confusion. I should've write if everyone is clean except for Mao Asada. Im pretty much sure two of her jumping passes will be flutz and underrotated. She's been inconsistent before and she's still inconsistent now. I'm just basing my rank this season and she never did a clean program.

Franklin99 · Dec 10, 2015

3dsushi said:
Sorry for the confusion. I should've write if everyone is clean except for Mao Asada. Im pretty much sure two of her jumping passes will be flutz and underrotated. She's been inconsistent before and she's still inconsistent now. I'm just basing my rank this season and she never did a clean program.

At COC, with a 3A(no +GOE due to wonky landing), 3F-3L<, 3Lz(e), Mao's SP (71+) still outscored all of her GPF compatriot besides Gracie's 73+ SP. And I won't count her NHK performance, as Mao was very sick during that competition.

That said, I would prefer Mao change her SP layout to 3A, 3F-2L, 3L. And if she goes clean, she will be on top of the leader board. Then, depending on how clean-ish she performs her FS, that will be the deciding factor on her landing on the podium.

2015-16 Grand Prix Final Ladies SP

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mrrice

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NaVi

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