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    Tae Ok Ryom & Ju Sik Kim

    Tae Ok Ryom (Korean: 렴대옥) and Ju Sik Kim (Korean: 김주식) are pair skaters representing North Corea (Democratic People's Republic of Korea). Since the order of names of the Chinese, Japanese and Koreans is family name followed by given name, they can be also introduced as Ryom Tae Ok and Kim Ju Sik. Tae Ok's alternative name is Ryeom Dae-ok.

    Tae Ok was born on 2 February 1999 in Pyongyang, Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

    Ju Sik Kim was born on 25 September 1992, also in Pyongyang, Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

    They are the 2018 Four Continents bronze medalist and the 2017 Asian Winter Games bronze medalist. They also won silver medal at 2018 ISU CS Asian Open.

    Ryom and Kim are the first North Korean figure skaters to win a medal at an International Skating Union event.

    Tae Ok Ryom's former partners were Chang Gon O and Mun Song Kim. Ju Sik Kim's previous partner were Gyong Mi Kwang and Kang Kyong Mi.

    The pair is coached in Pyongyang by Hyon Son Kim and has their programs choreographed by Julie Marcotte. While preparing to the XXIII Winter Olympic Games in PyeongChang they trained in Canada with Bruno Marcotte (see below a link to a short video report).

    Last updated on 25 November 2018 by Mohacz

    ISU Bio
    http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00015041.htm

    Stats on Ice Bio
    https://www.statsonice.com/skatertea...ryomju-sikkim/

    Wiki pages
    Tae Ok - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryom_Tae-ok
    Ju Sik - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Ju-sik

    Personal Best Scores starting from 2018/2019 season
    SP: 67.18 (ISU GP Internationaux de France 2018)
    FS: 120.77 (ISU GP Internationaux de France 2018)
    TS: 187.95 (ISU GP Internationaux de France 2018)

    Personal Best Scores pre 2018/2019 season
    SP: 69.40 (XXIII Olympic Winter Games 2018)
    FS: 124.23 (XXIII Olympic Winter Games 2018)
    TS: 193.63 (XXIII Olympic Winter Games 2018)

    Programs and Videos
    2108/2019
    SP: "A Day in the Life" by Paul McCartney and John Lennon, performed by Jeff Beck
    FS: "Je ne suis qu'une chanson" by Diane Justler, performed by Ginette Reno
    Ex: "Gobaek" by Hwang Jun Yong

    2019 Four Continents Championships
    SP:
    FS:
    2018 GP Internationaux de France
    2018 GP Helsinki
    2018 CS Asian Open FS Trophy Bangkok

    2017/2018
    SP: "A Day in the Life" by The Beatles
    FS: "Je ne suis qu'une chanson" by Diane Justler, performed by Ginette Reno
    Ex: "Bangabsumnida" (Nice to Meet You) by Hwang Jin Yong

    2018 World Championships
    XXIII Winter Olympic Games PyeongChang
    2018 Four Continents Championships
    2017 Nebelhorn Trophy
    2017 Championnats québécois d'été
    SP: no video found
    FS: no video found
    Medal ceremony: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5wuyjl

    2016/2017
    SP: "A Day in the Life" by The Beatles
    FS: "The Prince and the Sugarplum Fairy" (from "The Nutcracker") by P. I. Tchaikovski; choreo by Hyon Son Kim

    2017 World Championships
    2017 Asian Winter Games Sapporo
    2016 Asian Open Trophy Manila

    2015/2016
    SP: "Salut d'Amour" by Elgar; choreo by Hyon Son Kim
    LP: "The Prince and the Sugarplum Fairy" (from "The Nutcracker") by P. I. Tchaikovski; choreo by Hyon Son Kim

    2016 Cup of Tyrol Innsbruck
    2016 Four Continents Championships
    2015 Ice Challenge of Graz

    Results

    Competition
    SP
    FS
    Final
    Season 2018/2019
    2019 Four Continents Championships
    TBD
    TBD
    TBD
    2018 GP Internationaux de France
    2 (67.18)
    4 (120.77)
    4 (187.95)
    2018 GP Helsinki
    5 (56.87)
    4 (117.37)
    5 (174.24)
    2018 CS Asian Open FS Trophy Bangkok
    2 (60.40)
    2 (112.80)
    2 (173.20)
    Season 2017/2018
    2018 World Championships
    12 (66.32)
    12 (122.45)
    12 (188.77)
    XXIII Winter Olympic Games PyeongChang
    11 (69.40)
    12 (124.23)
    13 (193.63)
    2018 Four Continents Championships
    4 (65.25)
    3 (119.73)
    3 (184.98)
    2017 CS Nebelhorn Trophy
    4 (60.09)
    3 (119.90)
    3 (180.09)
    2017 Championnats québécois d'été 2017
    2 (67.38)
    2 (113.62)
    2 (181.00)
    Season 2016/2017
    2017 World Championships
    14 (64.52)
    15 (105.13)
    15 (169.65)
    Asian Winter Games
    3 (65.22)
    3 (112.18)
    3 (177.40)
    Asian Open Trophy
    2 (51.16)
    1 (92.99)
    1 (144.15)
    Season 2015/2016
    2016 Cup of Tyrol Innsbruck
    3 (53.64)
    3 (106.39)
    3 (160.03)
    2016 ISU Four Continents Championships
    8 (53.83)
    7 (103.41)
    7 (157.24)
    2015 ISU CS Ice Challenge
    5 (44.16)
    5 (88.02)
    5 (132.18)

    Miscellanea
    Articles
    26 Jan. 2018 GS article "Kayne and O’Shea capture gold at Four Continents" with reference to the North Coreans - https://goldenskate.com/2018/01/2018...tinents-pairs/
    9 Jan. 2018 video "Meet the Canadian who trained North Korea's Olympic-qualifying figure skaters" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFKli5-B3RA
    8 Jan. 2018 video report "North Korean ice skaters trained for Olympics in Canada" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d2aCYXL07I
    27 Feb, 2017 article - https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2017/...hang-olympics/

    Original post
    These two represent the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. They competed at the Ice Challenge in Graz earlier this season and are now entered in 4CCs. I had absolutely no idea what to expect before the Ice Challenge, but was favorably impressed with them there. They have a pleasant style and technically are on par with many of the B level teams currently competing. They did achieve comfortably above the 4CCs minimums there; they also achieved the Worlds minimum in their Free Skate, but were slightly under it in their Short program. I do honestly think they have a good shot at hitting the Worlds SP minimum at 4CCs.

    I did not open a thread for them before because I quite frankly did not know if we'd ever see them again, but now that they are officially entered in 4CCs I thought I would open this thread here and show them some love. I am confident that many more people will be pleasantly surprised by this pair when they see them there, and I am glad that their federation is giving them these chances to go to international competitions.

    These two are still very difficult to find information about and videos of at the moment, but I will post things as I find them. To start, here are their ISU and Stats on Ice Bios.
    Last edited by Mohacz; 11-25-2018 at 04:32 AM. Reason: GP France update

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    This pair definitely caught my eye during the Ice Challenge. I'm anticipating their 4cc performance. I'm glad they're able to compete

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    These two did just great in their 4CC's SP There TES was over 4 points above the Worlds minimum. They also smashed their Ice Challenge score by 9 points I hope this means they will be able to go to Worlds but am not sure if this will be enough time for them to obtain a visa. I have done a little google research and it looks like it is at least theoretically possible for a North Korean to obtain a visa to the USA (the internet makes is sound like it's harder for them to get an exit visa from North Korea than an entry one but who knows if that's true), but I just don't know if 1 month is realistically enough time.

    No one appears to have posted a video of their skate yet but stay tuned- I will come post it as soon as I find one, I am sure one must be out there somewhere!

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    Really hope a video surfaces soon! Glad they got the tech min.

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    Until a real video surfaces... the full pairs event is online and they start at about 24 minutes in

    https://youtu.be/NSzqu_3Lhj8?t=1462

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    Unfortunately the full pairs event is geoblocked now, but I am happy to say that some kind soul did post their program on it's own: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD8fTKG-mwo

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    These two did great again today! They ended up 7th (which I think is very good in this field) and beat their previous personal best score by 15 points. This will also move them up from 50 to 28 on the Season's best list which actually might be good enough for them to get a Grand Prix spot next year

    This is a link to their skate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XaeOfefTik

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    Just watched their fs, and wow, i'm so impressed! Really hope they go to worlds and get a gp assignment next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tulosai View Post
    These two did great again today! They ended up 7th (which I think is very good in this field) and beat their previous personal best score by 15 points. This will also move them up from 50 to 28 on the Season's best list which actually might be good enough for them to get a Grand Prix spot next year

    This is a link to their skate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XaeOfefTik
    I was totally just coming to this thread to ask if they might get a gp next year! That'd be awesome if they did! I hope they continue to do well. I've heard that sometimes North Korea doesn't keeping sending athletes internationally if they don't do well (confirmation or correction welcome), so I hope that they're doing well enough to keep getting sent out. They look like a fun team, and it's good to see teams from smaller federations!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Princessroja View Post
    I was totally just coming to this thread to ask if they might get a gp next year! That'd be awesome if they did! I hope they continue to do well. I've heard that sometimes North Korea doesn't keeping sending athletes internationally if they don't do well (confirmation or correction welcome), so I hope that they're doing well enough to keep getting sent out. They look like a fun team, and it's good to see teams from smaller federations!
    I don't think any of us really know if this is true because in recent years North Korea has sent out so few athletes internationally- this is literally the first North Korean figure skating team or skater I remember seeing and I have been following skating for 20+ years now, almost 15 of those quite seriously. I was worried about this after the Ice Challenge, but I think their result here should be good enough to allow them to be sent at least to Worlds if they can get the visa, and then we'll have to see how they do there I suppose. Realistically speaking they have had a very strong international debut this season, especially with their being from such a small and unimportant/perhaps even dismissed federation, but I don't know what results the North Korean federation would consider 'good enough' if that makes sense. I think all they can do though is keep trying to show improvement at each competition and they definitely did that here.

    I do really think with some more experience their PCS have the potential to go up quite a bit. Their tech is already actually sufficient- the only 'crucial' imprvements that need to be made are if they could just get the twist stronger and slightly strengthen their SBS jumps. The throws, lifts, spins and so on are all already of good quality and getting fine levels though they should keep trying to polish everything to make it really great and really get the GOEs up.

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    i am pleasantly surprised by how refined they skated, not expected that at all! they have so much promise,their throws are really good!! and she is a cutie! hopefully we will see them more often

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    More photos from Four Continents:

    SP:
    https://www.facebook.com/isufiguresk...type=3&theater



    Cross-posting from the North Korea festival thread:

    The ISU Instagram account posted a photo of Ryom/Kim's FS death spiral:

    Here they are with skaters from other countries at the banquet in Taipei:

    One more off-ice photo of them from Four Continents:

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    we will see them at Cup of Tyrol! here is competition thread
    http://goldenskate.com/forum/showthr...rol-(9-13-Mar)

    and i found their SP from Ice Challenge : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fPAZ5H1Nqw

    my hope for them competing at worlds is gtting bigger!
    Last edited by matmuh; 03-02-2016 at 01:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matmuh View Post
    we will see them at Cup of Tyrol! here is competition thread
    http://goldenskate.com/forum/showthr...rol-(9-13-Mar)

    and i found their SP from Ice Challenge : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fPAZ5H1Nqw

    my hope for them competing at worlds is gtting bigger!
    Oh great news! Thanks! I am still really hoping they will be able to appear at Worlds

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    Sadly these two are not on the list for Worlds I can't honestly say I am surprised but I am very disappointed.

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    With the political climate not in good shape with the really tough sanctions doesnt help

    Also, since worlds is in the US (and everyone knows how north koreans are told to think about americans) doesnt help either.

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    Guess this means they will not be in the Team Challenge Cup either. Hoping the streaming at Tyrol is good enough.

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    They won the bronze at Cup of Tyrol

    https://web.archive.org/web/20160314...7/CAT003RS.HTM

    They earned 160.03 points, which more than they got at Ice Challenge.

    28.10 TES in the SP,
    53.46 TES in the LP




    2016 Cup of Tyrol SP
    2016 Cup of Tyrol FS
    2016 Cup of Tyrol Medal Ceremony
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    Their bio gives a peekhole into the mystery that is figure skating in North Korea:

    National Championships

    2009-2010. 5.S(2) Tae Ok RYOM / Chang Gon O (PRK placed fifth
    2010-2011.
    2011-2012. 3.S(2)(2): Tae Ok RYOM / Chang Gon O (PRK placed third
    2012-2013. 1.S(2) / 3.S(1) Tae Ok RYOM / Chang Gon O (PRK) placed first, : Kyong Mi KANG / Ju Sik KIM (PRK) placed third
    2013-2014. 3.S(3) / 4.S. Tae Ok RYOM / Mun Song KIM (PRK) and Kyong Mi KANG / Ju Sik KIM (PRK placed fourth
    2014-2015
    2015-2016


    S=Senior; J=Junior; N=Novice

    Ju Sik Kim has been competing in Senior Pairs since 2009-2010.
    Tae Ok Ryom has competed in S

    (1): Kyong Mi KANG / Ju Sik KIM (PRK), (2): Tae Ok RYOM / Chang Gon O (PRK) , (3): Tae Ok RYOM / Mun Song KIM (PRK)


    Thus we see there have been as many as five senior pairs in one season, and Tae Ok Ryom has skated in senior pairs since 2009-2010. Ju Sik Kim is her third partner.


    That's a fairly large pair grouping for a smaller federation.
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