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As it is only 8 days until the start of the Youth Olympics, and the entry lists have now been announced, it seemed an appropriate time to get the all-new 2016 ISU Junior Championships Predictions Game underway.
Don’t worry, the rules are EXACTLY the same as those used for this season’s ISU Championships Predictions Game. The only difference is that Junior Worlds are being run under the normal rules, rather than the rules we are using for Senior Worlds.
You will be pleased to hear that there have only been two changes to the rules for this season. The first is the requirement to use full surnames, so that samkrut's formula can be used to work out scores. But, if you have been playing the GP Predictions Game, you will be used to that by now.
The second is that if you want to make changes after the first SP has started, you have to do so in a new post. This was a new rule added for the final 2 rounds of the Nationals Predictions Game.
The Rules are still largely the same as for the GP Predictions Game. So, like last year, I will use tulosai’s explanation as the basis, but will not use quotes this time as I have added a few clauses.
Rules (pretty much the same as last year):
Scoring
Each correct guess is worth 15 points. If you guess Mao will be first and she is first, that is 15 points. If you guess Mirai is 5[SUP]th[/SUP] and she is 5[SUP]th[/SUP], that is 15 points.
Each guess that is one placement off is worth 10 points. If you guess Ashley is 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] and she is 1[SUP]st[/SUP], you get 10 points. If you guess Gracie is 5[SUP]th[/SUP] and she is 6[SUP]th[/SUP], you get 10 points.
Each guess that is two placements off is worth 5 points. If you guess Akiko is 4[SUP]th[/SUP] and she in 2[SUP]nd[/SUP], you get 5 points. If you guess Tukt is 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] and she is 5[SUP]th[/SUP] you get 5 points.
So, after careful consideration, these are the Championships that have been selected as rounds for the Predictions Game:
ISU Junior Championships Game
Round 1: Youth Olympic Games (12[SUP]th[/SUP] – 16[SUP]th[/SUP] February 2016)
N/S Round: Youth Olympics Team Competition (20[SUP]th[/SUP] February 2016)
Round 2: World Junior Championships (14[SUP]th[/SUP] – 20[SUP]th[/SUP] March 2016)
This thread will be available for general discussion about the game, and for analysing how the game is progressing. But, please keep the predictions and subsequent discussion about each event in the specific thread for that event:
Youth Olympic Games: Predictions Game Round 1
Youth Olympics Team Competition: Predictions Game (N/S Round)
Junior World Championships: Predictions Game Round 2
The scores for all the rounds will be recorded in the spreadsheet, which can be found at:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YaN17z_UKvKUEG7rcoRFxROqQsFk2uaf003LUUGSCo0/edit?usp=sharing
Plus, if you want a handy way to keep track who is on the podium in each round, we have the HALL OF FAME thread, which can be found at:
http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?58464
Thank you so much to Mrs. P and the scorers of this year’s GP and Nationals Games for making it such a success. This new game would not have been possible without you!
Good luck everybody!
CaroLiza_fan
Don’t worry, the rules are EXACTLY the same as those used for this season’s ISU Championships Predictions Game. The only difference is that Junior Worlds are being run under the normal rules, rather than the rules we are using for Senior Worlds.
You will be pleased to hear that there have only been two changes to the rules for this season. The first is the requirement to use full surnames, so that samkrut's formula can be used to work out scores. But, if you have been playing the GP Predictions Game, you will be used to that by now.
The second is that if you want to make changes after the first SP has started, you have to do so in a new post. This was a new rule added for the final 2 rounds of the Nationals Predictions Game.
The Rules are still largely the same as for the GP Predictions Game. So, like last year, I will use tulosai’s explanation as the basis, but will not use quotes this time as I have added a few clauses.
Rules (pretty much the same as last year):
- Guess the top 6 finisher in each discipline at each National Championship. Each event will have it's own dedicated thread in which to make predictions. For handiness, I will provide a list of the entries in the first post in each of these threads.
- Only the top 5 guesses of each person will be scored. The 6[SUP]th[/SUP] person you guess will be an alternate in case one of the 5 skaters you pick withdraws or can't compete at the last minute.
- The target time to get your predictions in is one hour before the first Short Programme of the event starts. If the pairs are first and they start at 7pm EST, you should aim to get your predictions in by 6pm EST.
But, as usual in my Games, this is just a target time so that you are not rushing about at the last minute. Predictions for each category will still be accepted up until the start of that category’s Short Programme.
Late Entries
- In the event of predictions being submitted late, only those predictions for competitions that have not yet started will count.
So, using last year’s European SP timetable (Men's, then Dance, then Ladies and finally Pairs) as an example:
If you submit your predictions in between Dance and Ladies, then your predictions for BOTH Ladies and Pairs will count towards the Game.
If you submit your predictions during the Ladies competition (even if your skaters have not yet taken to the ice), then ONLY your predictions for Pairs will count towards the Game.
New this year: Editing / Changing Predictions After The First SP Starts
If you edit your predictions post after the first SP has started (even if it is just to correct a spelling mistake), ALL your predictions will become invalid. This is because the only people that can see a post’s edit history is the person who posted it. So, the scorers cannot know for sure what exactly was edited.
If you want to edit your predictions, you should instead post the amended predictions for that category IN A NEW POST, and make it clear in this new post that you want that to replace your previous predictions for that category.
- New this year: For your prediction to qualify for scoring, you must provide the full last name(s) in your predictions. The thread of each round will include the entries for each discipline, so all you need to do is copy and paste. Abbreviations, nicknames, first names will not be accepted.
Scoring
Each correct guess is worth 15 points. If you guess Mao will be first and she is first, that is 15 points. If you guess Mirai is 5[SUP]th[/SUP] and she is 5[SUP]th[/SUP], that is 15 points.
Each guess that is one placement off is worth 10 points. If you guess Ashley is 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] and she is 1[SUP]st[/SUP], you get 10 points. If you guess Gracie is 5[SUP]th[/SUP] and she is 6[SUP]th[/SUP], you get 10 points.
Each guess that is two placements off is worth 5 points. If you guess Akiko is 4[SUP]th[/SUP] and she in 2[SUP]nd[/SUP], you get 5 points. If you guess Tukt is 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] and she is 5[SUP]th[/SUP] you get 5 points.
Non-Scoring Round: Youth Olympics Team Competition
As the Youth Olympics includes a Team Competition, I thought it would be fun to predict on it as well. HOWEVER, it is a mixed nationality team competition, and the make-up of the teams will not be known until after the Individual competitions are finished.
Depending on how far in advance the teams are announced, we may or may not have time to formulate proper predictions. Especially since Four Continents will be starting during the gap between the Individual and Team competitions.
Consequently, the Youth Olympics Team Competition will be a “Non-Scoring Round”. Basically, you can predict on it for fun if you want, but it will not count towards the final Game score.
For the Youth Olympics Team Competition round of the Predictions Game, we will be using the normal rules. The only difference is that, as well as the predicting on each category, we will also be predicting on the overall Team result.
As the Youth Olympics includes a Team Competition, I thought it would be fun to predict on it as well. HOWEVER, it is a mixed nationality team competition, and the make-up of the teams will not be known until after the Individual competitions are finished.
Depending on how far in advance the teams are announced, we may or may not have time to formulate proper predictions. Especially since Four Continents will be starting during the gap between the Individual and Team competitions.
Consequently, the Youth Olympics Team Competition will be a “Non-Scoring Round”. Basically, you can predict on it for fun if you want, but it will not count towards the final Game score.
For the Youth Olympics Team Competition round of the Predictions Game, we will be using the normal rules. The only difference is that, as well as the predicting on each category, we will also be predicting on the overall Team result.
So, after careful consideration, these are the Championships that have been selected as rounds for the Predictions Game:
ISU Junior Championships Game
Round 1: Youth Olympic Games (12[SUP]th[/SUP] – 16[SUP]th[/SUP] February 2016)
N/S Round: Youth Olympics Team Competition (20[SUP]th[/SUP] February 2016)
Round 2: World Junior Championships (14[SUP]th[/SUP] – 20[SUP]th[/SUP] March 2016)
This thread will be available for general discussion about the game, and for analysing how the game is progressing. But, please keep the predictions and subsequent discussion about each event in the specific thread for that event:
Youth Olympic Games: Predictions Game Round 1
Youth Olympics Team Competition: Predictions Game (N/S Round)
Junior World Championships: Predictions Game Round 2
The scores for all the rounds will be recorded in the spreadsheet, which can be found at:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YaN17z_UKvKUEG7rcoRFxROqQsFk2uaf003LUUGSCo0/edit?usp=sharing
Plus, if you want a handy way to keep track who is on the podium in each round, we have the HALL OF FAME thread, which can be found at:
http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?58464
Thank you so much to Mrs. P and the scorers of this year’s GP and Nationals Games for making it such a success. This new game would not have been possible without you!
Good luck everybody!
CaroLiza_fan
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