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2016 Junior Worlds Ladies Short Program

stryke

On the Ice
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I am interested to see what Wakaba brings to the table here. Since she didn't make it to JGPF she has spent this entire time training with Polina in her cross-hairs. She certainly doesn't want a repeat of last year. If Polina makes a major mistake then Mariya could potentially be in the run for the gold too.
 

Mrs. P

Uno, Dos, twizzle!
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Dec 27, 2009
Her ISU bio says Aranjuez. Her icenetwork bio says "Party Happening People" by Deee-Lite," which was the number Rohene choreographed for her.

She did Danse Macabre in a previous season for sure, but I don't recall her 2016 US Nats skate

Man it's sort of sad that SP never saw the light of day (except for those who saw it in summer comps) -- I would have love to see what a program to Deee-Lite would have been like!
 

humbaba

Final Flight
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Jan 12, 2004
At US Nats-2016 Tyler Pirece's FS Music was Danse Macabre.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XaS9ReLjXM

It's interesting will she try 3Lz+3T at SP. At US Nats-2016 she got better GOE for 3Lz+3T in FS, than for 3T+3T in SP. And fall from 3F(!) in FS, which she must jump in Junior SP.

At the Bavarian Open, Tyler fell on the 3F in the short, but landed it cleanly in the FS, with all positive GOE. I'm curious to see how she fares with the jump at Junior Worlds.
 

Sackie

Medalist
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Jan 4, 2007
It is quite possible that Canada will not have a lady make it into the free skate again this year. Sarah's best short program score is not going to cut it here. She will need to step things up if she has a chance to make it through. Her free score is better but if she doesn't clean a good short it won't matter.
 

chuckm

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It is quite possible that Canada will not have a lady make it into the free skate again this year. Sarah's best short program score is not going to cut it here. She will need to step things up if she has a chance to make it through. Her free score is better but if she doesn't clean a good short it won't matter.

That would be sad, because Canadian ladies would get shorted in the JGP again. Why doesn't Canada send the best age-eligible Senior lady to JW? Sending inexperienced skaters to JW that can't make the FS or finish way down in the standings means next year, few younger skaters get a chance to gain experience and the same cycle starts all over again.
 
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It is quite possible that Canada will not have a lady make it into the free skate again this year. Sarah's best short program score is not going to cut it here. She will need to step things up if she has a chance to make it through. Her free score is better but if she doesn't clean a good short it won't matter.
Sarah Tamura is strong enough to advance to FS. 3Lz+2T and 3F - not top, but good jumping content. FSSp is her problem, she popped it both at JGP and Nationals.

If she will skate as at Nationals, no problem to be at FS.
 

Sackie

Medalist
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The problem is she doesn't have enough experience that even if she makes a small mistake she will be dinged hard. Yes she can make it into the FS but she will have to have her best ever international SP. Of all the Canadian JR ladies on the JGP this year Sarah has the lowest SP score, by a long shot. And even her international PB is not even close to the other Can JR ladies.
 

chuckm

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How did she get the JW slot, then? By winning Canadian JR Nationals?
She was 13th at JGP Latvia out of 32 skaters: 21st in the SP with 34.87, and 8th in the FS with 93.62. She was probably scared stiff in her first international outing, hence the bad placement in the SP. But JW is a whole lot scarier than a JGP, and there's a lot more pressure on her with JGP seats for next season dependent on her performance.
 
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The problem is she doesn't have enough experience

Lack of International experience?
WHAT?
Lipnitskaia (won her International debut JGP Event, debut JrWorlds, debut Euro), Radionova (won her Int. debut at Triglav Trophy 2012, debut JGP Event, debut JrWorlds), Medvedeva (won her Int. debut JGP Event, debut GP Event, debut Euro), Tuktamysheva and Osmond and Pogorilaya (won their debut GP Events), Hicks and Gold and Edmunds (won their Int. debut JGP Events) and many others laughing in your face from podium.

I believe it is better to wish Sarah Tamura good luck and clean skating. She can do it.

How did she get the JW slot, then? By winning Canadian JR Nationals?
Yes. And of competitors of these JrNats she is the only girl who looks as competitive skater, others look like "adult skaters" (not by age but by level). More than 17 points from 2nd place, and, I repeat, she was the only who looked strong.
 

chuckm

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The Russian skaters go through extensive internal competitions against one another year after year, month after month. And it is very tough competition. US competitors don't do anything even close to what the Russian girls do, but they have club competitions during the year, and then the best ones do the top summer events leading up to the JGP or ISU B events. US Regionals and Sectionals are often not particularly tough competitions because many of the top skaters are exempt due to international assignment conflicts.

Unfortunately, the Canadian girls don't have as much organized competition as the US. There are 3 major Canadian competitions, and Sarah Tamura competed at one, the BC Summer Skate. She won Group 1, and was first of 15 Junior skaters. The problem is there were three groups of Junior skaters, and the winners of the other two groups never compete against one another. That is the way competition is in Canada at all three major Summer competitions.

In the US, when you have large groups, the top 3-5 of the groups compete against one another in a final free skate (US Regionals are organized that way, too). Sarah Tamura competed at Skate Detroit, a US summer competition, but she finished fourth in her group and did not make the final (the top 3 made the final at that competition).

Yes, Sarah may have looked strong compared to her competition at Nationalsl but the competition she is facing at JW is nothing like the competition she faced at home, and it is even tougher than the competition she faced in Latvia.
 
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The Russian skaters go through extensive internal competitions against one another year after year, month after month. And it is very tough competition.
Yes. But it is because Russia has many very strong competitors.
For example, at Moscow qualifiers to Natonals Elder Age 2016 competed 8 really strong girls (Vasilyeva, Panenkova, Tarusina, Gulyakova, Mitrofanova, Mukhortova, Kurakova, Scherbakova, born at 2002-2004) and at least four not "very good just now" but promising Trusova, Zagitova, Tarakanova, Shuboderova. So many strong competitors, and it's without three JGP Finalists and StPetersburg girls - Konstantinova, Samodurova, Lozko etc. and Kazan's Yasmina Kadyrova.

But US Ladies - Hicks, Gold, Edmunds won their International debut JGP Events (and Edmunds was good at her Senior International debut - Olympics, where ahead her were only ladies of "Top of World Top").
Canadian Osmond won her debut GP Event.
Wakaba Higuchi won her international debut Asian Open (Junior).

I believe really talented and strong skaters have good results regardless of lack of international experience.
 

chuckm

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United-States
Ladies Tech Team:
Referee Aniela HEBEL-SZMAK POL
Tech Controller Sally REHORICK CAN
Tech Spec Natalia LEBEDEVA RUS
Asst Tech Spec Terry KUBICKA USA

JUDGES drawn from: AUT CHN EST FIN HUN ISR ITA KAZ ROU RUS SVK RSA UKR

Lots of luck to the Japanese and Korean ladies with this judging panel....
 
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