2017 JGP/World Junior Championships Spots

Chemistry66 · Mar 17, 2016

As Pairs has just finished, it seems time to start gathering info for next year's spots. JGP spot allotment listed is based off the 2015-2016 announcement assuming no changes (since there haven't been any in a while).

2016 Pairs Results: http://www.isuresults.com/results/season1516/wjc2016/CAT003RS.HTM

2017 World Junior Championships: Pairs

3 Spots

Czech Republic: (1, only team, up from 1 spot)
Russia (2+3=5)

2 Spots

Ukraine (4, only team, up from 1 spot)
USA (5+9 = 14, down from 3 spots)
Italy (6, only team, up from 1 spot)
Canada (7+8 = 15, down from 3 spots)

2016-2017 Junior Grand Prix: Pairs

3 Entries in 4 Events - Top 4 placing countries

Czech Republic (1)
Russia (2)
Ukraine (3)
USA (4)

2 Entries in 4 Events - Non-top-4 placing countries making the FS

Italy (5)
Canada (6)
Great Britain (7)
China (8)
Kazakhstan (9)

All teams made the FS, so there aren't any countries that can send 1 team to each of 4 events. Any other countries who wish to send Pairs to the JGP can send one team to each of 3 events.

Chemistry66 · Mar 18, 2016

2017 World Junior Championships: Men

2016 Men's results: http://www.isuresults.com/results/season1516/wjc2016/CAT001RS.HTM

Qualification note:

Skaters qualifying for the FS but placing 17th or lower overall receive 16 points regardless of actual placement. Skaters competing in the SP but not qualifying for the FS receive 18 points (assuming more than 18 qualify for the FS) All other skaters receive points equal to placement number.

3 Spots: 1st or 2nd place if 1 skater, top 2 skaters' placements totaling 13 or less if multiple skaters

Canada (2nd, only skater)
USA (3+5=8, up from 2 spots)
Russia (4+6=10)

2 Spots: 3rd-10th place if 1 skater, top 2 skaters' placements totaling 14-28 if multiple skaters

Israel (1+18=19)
Korea (7+18=25)
Latvia (8+18=26)
France (9, only skater, up from 1 spot)
China (10+18=28)
Japan (12+15=27, down from 3 spots)

2016-2017 Junior Grand Prix: Men

A: 2 Entries in 7 Events - Top 3 highest placing countries

(1) Israel
(2) Canada
(3) USA

B: 1 Entries in 7 Events - Countries 4th-6th, eligible for any unused spots from A, B, or C to add a second skater to an event

(4)Russia
(5) South Korea
(6) Latvia

C: 1 Entries in 6 Events - Countries 7th-10th

(7) France
(8) China
(9) Ukraine
(10) Japan

1 Entries in 5 Events - Countries qualifying for FS, 11th and lower

Italy, Czech Republic, Belarus, Estonia, Taipei, Norway, Switzerland, Great Britain, Georgia

1 Entries in 4 Events - Countries with skaters placing 25th-30th place in SP

Croatia, Australia, Spain, Austria

1 Entries in 3 Events - Countries with skaters placing 31st or below in SP

Turkey, Kazakhstan, Finland, Slovakia, Malaysia, Hungary

1 Entries in 2 Events - Any member country not listed above

Crossover · Mar 18, 2016

I noticed that you provided this useful information in the thread for JWC Men's FS.

I love this new thread (because it is more easy to revisit the place) and your cute puppy avatar. :cool2:

Chemistry66 · Mar 18, 2016

Crossover said:
I noticed that you provided this useful information in the thread for JWC Men's FS.

I love this new thread (because it is more easy to revisit the place) and your cute puppy avatar. :cool2:

Thanks! I figured it was convenient to post the info right after the event in the actual thread, but agree that having its' own thread makes it easier to find later.

And thanks. The avatar was a result of me looking for a cheerful picture after there was drama during competitions.

StitchMonkey · Mar 18, 2016

Chemistry66 said:
3 Entries in 4 Events - Top 4 placing countries

Czech Republic (1)
Russia (2)
Ukraine (3)
USA (4)

3 Entries in 4 Events - Non-top-4 placing countries making the FS

Italy (5)
Canada (6)
Great Britain (7)
China (8)
Kazakhstan (9)

... is this accurate that the tiers are the same? Is there are reason for different tiers if so?

Chemistry66 · Mar 18, 2016

StitchMonkey said:
... is this accurate that the tiers are the same? Is there are reason for different tiers if so?

No, that's just me not changing the number when I copied the header formatting.

snowflake · Mar 19, 2016

Chemistry66 said:
1 Entries in 5 Events - Countries qualifying for FS, 11th and lower

Italy, Czech Republic, Belarus, Estonia, Taipei, Norway, Switzerland, Great Britain, Georgia

Well done Sondre! How many times can one skater compete? Three? I wish Sweden could buy spots from Norway :laugh:

Chemistry66 · Mar 19, 2016

2017 World Junior Championships: Ladies

2016 Ladies' results: http://www.isuresults.com/results/season1516/wjc2016/CAT002RS.HTM

Qualification note:

Skaters qualifying for the FS but placing 17th or lower overall receive 16 points regardless of actual placement. Skaters competing in the SP but not qualifying for the FS receive 18 points (assuming more than 18 qualify for the FS) All other skaters receive points equal to placement number.

3 Spots: 1st or 2nd place if 1 skater, top 2 skaters' placements totaling 13 or less if multiple skaters

Japan (1+3=4)
Russia (2, Note: Due to Alisa's Top-10 SP placement, her withdrawal before the FS doesn't impact Russia's 3 spots)

2 Spots: 3rd-10th place if 1 skater, top 2 skaters' placements totaling 14-28 if multiple skaters

Kazakhstan (5, only skater, up from 1 spot)
USA (6+11=17)
Latvia (7+10=17)
Hungary (8, only skater, up from 1 spot)
South Korea (9+16=25)

2016-2017 Junior Grand Prix: Ladies

A: 2 Entries in 7 Events - Top 3 highest placing countries

(1) Japan
(2) Russia
(3) Kazakhstan

B: 1 Entries in 7 Events - Countries 4th-6th, eligible for any unused spots from A, B, or C to add a second skater to an event

(4) USA
(5) Latvia
(6) Hungary!

C: 1 Entries in 6 Events - Countries 7th-10th

(7) South Korea
(8) Germany
(9) Canada
(10) Taipei

1 Entries in 5 Events - Countries qualifying for FS, 11th and lower

Hong Kong, Armenia, Ukraine, Netherlands, Italy, China, France, Norway

1 Entries in 4 Events - Countries with skaters placing 25th-30th place in SP

Finland, Switzerland, Austria, Singapore, Estonia, Sweden

1 Entries in 3 Events - Countries with skaters placing 31st or below in SP

South Africa, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Australia, Great Britain, Czech Republic, Turkey, Poland, Bulgaria, Lithuania, Denmark, Thailand, Belgium, Spain

1 Entries in 2 Events - Any member country not listed above

ice coverage · Mar 19, 2016

Chemistry66 said:
2017 World Junior Championships: Ladies

2 Spots: 3rd-10th place if 1 skater, top 2 skaters' placements totaling 14-28 if multiple skaters
Russia (2+16=18, down from 3 spots)

Pretty sure that only Sotskova's results count for next year's spots -- so Russia should have three spots.

I'm turning into a broken record, but Alisa's results are not counted at all. She does not get 16 placement points.
The reason is that she placed in the top ten in the SP ... before withdrawing from the FS b/c of injury.

I quoted this rule yesterday at the end of the Junior World Ladies SP thread.

Pippuripihvi · Mar 19, 2016

Chemistry66 said:
2017 World Junior Championships: Ladies

Russia (2+16=18, down from 3 spots)

I think Russia is still keeping its 3 spots because:

"However the Competitors who withdrew because of:
- illness or injury, (provided this illness or injury is certified by the
ISU Medical Advisor) or
- unexpected damage to the equipment during the warm up or the
performance (provided this damage of the equipment is certified by
the Referee),
are not considered as entered for the purpose of this Rule if they did not
start or finish the Free Skating/Free Dance, but were among the top ten
(10) in the Short Program/Short Dance."

Chemistry66 · Mar 19, 2016

golden411icecoverage said:
Pretty sure that only Sotskova's results count for next year's spots -- so Russia should have three spots.

I'm turning into a broken record, but Alisa's results are not counted at all. She does not get 16 placement points.
The reason is that she placed in the top ten in the SP ... before withdrawing from the FS b/c of injury.

I quoted this rule yesterday at the end of the Junior World Ladies SP thread.

I didn't see your post. I'll change it.

sunnystars · Mar 19, 2016

Is it possible for S. Korea to get unused slot for the Ladies? or is that only reserved for the B-countries (US, Latvia, and Hungary)

Chemistry66 · Mar 19, 2016

sunnystars said:
Is it possible for S. Korea to get unused slot for the Ladies? or is that only reserved for the B-countries (US, Latvia, and Hungary)

Only for B countries, unless they change the rules from previous years.

Chemistry66 · Mar 19, 2016

2017 World Junior Championships: Ice Dance

2016 Ice Dance results: http://www.isuresults.com/results/season1516/wjc2016/CAT004RS.HTM

Qualification note:

Couples qualifying for the FD but placing 17th or lower overall receive 16 points regardless of actual placement. Couples competing in the SD but not qualifying for the FD receive 18 points (assuming more than 18 qualify for the FD) All other couples receive points equal to placement number.

3 Spots: 1st or 2nd place if 1 couple, top 2 couples' placements totaling 13 or less if multiple couples

USA (1+2=3)
Russia (3+5=8)

2 Spots: 3rd-10th place if 1 couple, top 2 couples' placements totaling 14-28 if multiple couples

Canada (9+12=21, down from 3 spots)
France (7+8=15)
Italy (10, only couple, up from 1 spot)

2016-2017 Junior Grand Prix: Ice Dance

A: 2 Entries in 7 Events - Top 3 highest placing countries

(1) USA
(2) Russia
(3) France

B: 1 Entries in 7 Events - Countries 4th-6th, eligible for any unused spots from A, B, or C to add a second couple to an event

(4) Canada
(5) Italy
(6) Czech Republic

C: 1 Entries in 6 Events - Countries 7th-10th

(7) South Korea
(8) Ukraine
(9) Germany
(10) Belarus

1 Entries in 5 Events - Countries qualifying for FS, 11th and lower

Japan, Poland

1 Entries in 4 Events - Countries with couples placing 21st-25th place in SD

China, Lithuania, Hungary, Great Britain, Estonia

1 Entries in 3 Events - Countries with couples placing 25th or below in SD

Kazakhstan, Austria, Australia, Bulgaria

1 Entries in 2 Events - Any member country not listed above

Chemistry66 · Mar 19, 2016

Discipline	Ladies	Men	Pairs	Ice Dance
3 spots	Japan Russia	Canada Russia USA	Czech Republic Russia	Russia USA
2 spots	Hungary Latvia Kazakhstan South Korea USA	China France Israel Japan Latvia South Korea	Canada Italy Ukraine USA	Canada France Italy

matmuh · Mar 19, 2016

i cant believe China has only 1 spot for pairs for worlds :hopelessness:

Chemistry66 · Mar 19, 2016

matmuh said:
i cant believe China has only 1 spot for pairs for worlds :hopelessness:

That largely results from them only sending 1 pair when they were eligible to send 3 thanks to Yu/Jin's win last year.

matmuh · Mar 19, 2016

Chemistry66 said:
That largely results from them only sending 1 pair when they were eligible to send 3 thanks to Yu/Jin's win last year.

some of their pairs broke up, i dont know if there are any other age eligible pairs but coulnt compete cause they didnt get min TES for JW

Perdita · Mar 19, 2016

golden411icecoverage said:
Pretty sure that only Sotskova's results count for next year's spots -- so Russia should have three spots.

I'm turning into a broken record, but Alisa's results are not counted at all. She does not get 16 placement points.
The reason is that she placed in the top ten in the SP ... before withdrawing from the FS b/c of injury.

I quoted this rule yesterday at the end of the Junior World Ladies SP thread.

Chemistry66 said:
I didn't see your post. I'll change it.

It seems Tsurskaya is counted as she WD after the draw: "Competitors are considered entered if they participate in the initial draw." thus she counts as "Competitors who were entered for the Short Program/Short Dance, but did not qualify for the Free Skating/Free Dance, will be awarded 18"... am I right? I mean, I hope I'm wrong... :hopelessness:

AlexRus · Mar 24, 2016

Pippuripihvi said:
I think Russia is still keeping its 3 spots because:

"However the Competitors who withdrew because of:
- illness or injury, (provided this illness or injury is certified by the
ISU Medical Advisor) or
- unexpected damage to the equipment during the warm up or the
performance (provided this damage of the equipment is certified by
the Referee),
are not considered as entered for the purpose of this Rule if they did not
start or finish the Free Skating/Free Dance, but were among the top ten
(10) in the Short Program/Short Dance."

And "If an ISU Member entered three (3) Competitors in a discipline of a Championships, only the two (2) best placed Competitors will count for points", so Tsurskaya does not count because of worst result of three (WD before SP).

2017 JGP/World Junior Championships Spots

Chemistry66

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Crossover

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snowflake

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