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gmyers said:
Obviously the leaders of RG are really afraid of being such a Russian sport in this atmosphere and are making moves to make an American successful so it's not eliminated from the Olympics. It's not that Zheng isn't good but why now? That's clear.
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I agree, some politics here

US only started getting noticed after American Caroline Hunt became the vice for technical committee was appointed
I don't want RG to turn into Ice Dance or Artistic , a lot of people dont like US in RG as they are afraid it will turn robotic if they dominate
like "Artistic Gymnastics" now

Laura is still young but she's getting 18 already ??
Salome Pazhava of Georgia had to go from scoring high 16s to low 18 in 3 years !!!
 
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I hijacked my skating blog to write a very basic RG primer. Lots of gifs and videos: https://salchowsandswarovskis.wordpress.com/2016/05/22/a-primer-to-rhythmic-gymnastics/

If I didn't already know it, I got most of the information for this from the Gymnastics About.com. :laugh:
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nice read :)

glad RG is being noticed by FS fans
also I'd add Linoy Ashram of Israel, Katsiaryna Halkina, Sabina Ashirbayeva, Nicol Ruprecht, Neviana Vladinova as Top 10 contenders

there are many young gymnasts for next quad
but will probably have break through only after Rio Olympics
 
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sneakers said:
nice read :)

glad RG is being noticed by FS fans
also I'd add Linoy Ashram of Israel, Katsiaryna Halkina, Sabina Ashirbayeva, Nicol Ruprecht, Neviana Vladinova as Top 10 contenders

there are many young gymnasts for next quad
but will probably have break through only after Rio Olympics
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Thanks! Due to the lack of easily-accessible schedules and live streams, I can never watch anything live (I often have to poke around on some Russian RG forum if I even want results), but I am trying to learn more about it. So I hope I can expand on it in the future. :)
 
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Thanks! Due to the lack of easily-accessible schedules and live streams, I can never watch anything live (I often have to poke around on some Russian RG forum if I even want results), but I am trying to learn more about it. So I hope I can expand on it in the future. :)
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the forum rsg.net, isnt that active nowadays
but some other wesbites you can check updates

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Passion-Beauty-and-Grace-are-Rhythmic-Gymnastics-1441299996102742/
russian vk: http://vk.com/club_team_of_russia
russian forum: http://rg4u.clan.su/tournaments/FC/List_IRGT_FC_2016.htm
 
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World Cup Sofia
All-around Results

Son now breaking a 74 mark and close to Rizatdinova and Staniouta's score :shocked:
strange since her difficulty and risks arent that difficult, they are overscoring her in E mark
looks like they really want Son on a podium in Rio Olympics !!! poor Rizat and Staniouta really need to be clean or else

WC Sofia 2016 / AA Results :

1. Yana Kudryavtseva RUS 17,950 19,350 19,250 19,200 75,750
2. Ganna Rizatdinova UKR 18,700 18,700 18,200 18,650 74,250
3. Yeon Jae Son KOR 18,550 18,650 18,600 18,400 74,200

Arina Averina RUS 18,100 18,400 18,550 18,400 73,450
Dina Averina RUS 18,350 18,300 18,550 17,700 72,900
Neviana Vladinova BUL 18,100 17,750 17,400 18,000 71,250
Linoy Ashram ISR 17,900 17,600 17,400 17,900 70,800
Varvara Filiou GRE 17,600 17,400 17,650 17,700 70,350
Hanna Bazhko BLR 17,450 17,150 17,450 17,350 69,400
Ana Luiza Filiorianu ROU 17,450 17,150 17,300 17,350 69,250
Veronica Bertolini ITA 17,600 16,300 17,600 17,500 69,000
Nastasya Generalova USA 17,250 17,450 17,500 16,650 68,850
Katrin Taseva BUL 17,500 17,650 17,200 16,300 68,650
Viktoriia Mazur UKR 17,300 17,150 17,500 16,650 68,600
Serena Lu USA 17,250 17,150 17,250 16,950 68,600
Sakura Hayakawa JPN 16,200 17,650 17,500 16,850 68,200
Patricia Bezzoubenko CAN 17,050 17,100 17,000 16,850 68,000
 
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LIST OF 2016 SEASONS BEST UNDER 70+ MARK ! (UPDATED)

1 Margarita Mamun (RUS) - 77.100 (Brno Grand Prix)
2 Yana Kudryavtseva (RUS) - 76.450 (Pesaro World Cup)
3 Aleksandra Soldatova (RUS) - 75.650 (Lisbon World Cup)
4 Melitina Staniouta (BLR) - 74.600 (Brno Grand Prix)
5 Ganna Rizatdinova (UKR) - 74.550 (Pesaro World Cup)
6 Son Yeon Jae - (KOR) 74.200 (Sofia World Cup) *New PB
7 Arina Averina (RUS) - 73.600 (Bucharest Grand Prix)
8 Dina Averina (RUS) - 73.500 (Pesaro World Cup)
9 Salome Pazhava (GEO) - 72.850 (Bucharest Grand Prix)
10 Katsiaryna Halkina (BLR) - 72.700 (Bucharest Grand Prix)
11 Victoria Filanovsky (ISR) - 72.100 (Brno Grand Prix)
12 Linoy Ashram (ISR) - 71.800 (Tashkent World Cup)
12 Kseniya Moustafaeva (FRA) - 71.700 (Pesaro World Cup)
13 Elizaveta Nazarenkova (UZB) - 71.450 (Asian Championships)
14 Neta Rivkin (ISR) - 71.350 (Tashkent World Cup)
15 Neviana Vladinova (BUL) - 71.250 (Sofia World Cup) *New PB
16 Karina Kuznetsova (RUS) - 71.200 (Tashkent World Cup)
17 Veronica Bertolini (ITA) - 70.900 (Pesaro World Cup)
18 Laura Zeng (USA) - 70.850 (Lisbon World Cup) *New PB
19 Ana Luiza Filorianu (ROU) - 70.750 (Bucharest Grand Prix)
20 Nicol Ruprecht (AUT) - 70.550 (Brno Grand Prix)
21 Sabina Ashirbayeva (KAZ) - 70.500 (Asian Championships)
22 Varvara Filiou (GRE) - 70.350 (Sofia World Cup)
23 Anastasiya Serdyukova (UZB) - 70.100 (Tashkent World Cup)
 
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Of course they are setting the groundwork not for son to medal but to win so that it's not a Russian sport anymore.
 
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Of course they are setting the groundwork not for son to medal but to win so that it's not a Russian sport anymore.
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i don't think she'll get a 19, her difficulty isn't that high, there is a limit in scoring Execution that is 10 lol
though she definitely has a chance for a medal ; I'd say she's in running along with Rizat, Staniouta, Pazhava for bronze
 
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Okay, seeing that list, I have to :eeking: at the scores...if 80 is the max score, we're getting really close to seeing a perfect score. Wow...
 
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Okay, seeing that list, I have to :eeking: at the scores...if 80 is the max score, we're getting really close to seeing a perfect score. Wow...
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but I don't think we'll ever be seeing another prefect,
there hasn't been a gymnast that has gotten prefect score since Kanaeva, and they have abolished the 30 point judging (removed the Artictic and merged with Execution mark) and returned to the 20 point scoring.

I think 77+ is the highest we can expect at the Olympics :agree:
 
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Of course they are setting the groundwork not for son to medal but to win so that it's not a Russian sport anymore.
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I really like Son Yeon, but if a non-Russian is going to win, it better be Melitina Staniouta. :yes:
 
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Son Yeon-Jae Ball Difficulty Espoo World Cup EF

Difficulty Elements

Dance steps +0.3

Unstable balance, eight (attitude Pivot +0.3 x 3 / wave +0.1) +1.0

Throw after bounce/sight 2 Revolutions (Axis /sight/ hands) +0.7

Transmission (Back scale) +0.5

Throw, catch (turning Split +0.5 x 2) +1.0

(Throw (turning stag w/ arch & ring) +0.6 [ 3 Revolutions (Axis / sight / hands ] +0.6) +1.2

Rebound (Front scale flat) +0.4

Dance steps +0.3

Unstable balance, hands arond ball, bounce (Fouetté w/straight leg +0.2 x 11211121) +2.0

Push (stag w/ change Leg straight & arch) +0.5

Bounces ( Penché turn +0.4 x 4) +1.0

Dance steps +0.3

(Vertical plane) 2 Revolutions (level/hands) +0.5

Mastery: Transmission { sight | hands | rotation} +0.3


In total we have....

-Body Difficulty 7.0 (9) which includes

Jumps & Leaps 2.1 (4)
Balances 0.9 (2)
Rotations 4.0 (3)

-Dance Steps 0.9 (3)
-Risks 1.8 (3)
-Mastery 0.3 (1)

Total:10

Actually, her routine is not so easy when you analyze it. Her strong difficulti is the Fouetté, and the Mastery is included in her routines since she moved to Novogorsk. She uses lots of dance steps, which may be the cause of all that belief of the easy routines. She is really expressive, so try to imagine her with the difficulties of other gymnasts routines... it wouldn´t be her. I will analyze more routines of Son and other gymnasts you want if you want to.
 
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Son Yeon-Jae Ball Difficulty Espoo World Cup EF

Difficulty Elements

Dance steps +0.3

Unstable balance, eight (attitude Pivot +0.3 x 3 / wave +0.1) +1.0

Throw after bounce/sight 2 Revolutions (Axis /sight/ hands) +0.7

Transmission (Back scale) +0.5

Throw, catch (turning Split +0.5 x 2) +1.0

(Throw (turning stag w/ arch & ring) +0.6 [ 3 Revolutions (Axis / sight / hands ] +0.6) +1.2

Rebound (Front scale flat) +0.4

Dance steps +0.3

Unstable balance, hands arond ball, bounce (Fouetté w/straight leg +0.2 x 11211121) +2.0

Push (stag w/ change Leg straight & arch) +0.5

Bounces ( Penché turn +0.4 x 4) +1.0

Dance steps +0.3

(Vertical plane) 2 Revolutions (level/hands) +0.5

Mastery: Transmission { sight | hands | rotation} +0.3


In total we have....

-Body Difficulty 7.0 (9) which includes

Jumps & Leaps 2.1 (4)
Balances 0.9 (2)
Rotations 4.0 (3)

-Dance Steps 0.9 (3)
-Risks 1.8 (3)
-Mastery 0.3 (1)

Total:10

Actually, her routine is not so easy when you analyze it. Her strong difficulti is the Fouetté, and the Mastery is included in her routines since she moved to Novogorsk. She uses lots of dance steps, which may be the cause of all that belief of the easy routines. She is really expressive, so try to imagine her with the difficulties of other gymnasts routines... it wouldn´t be her. I will analyze more routines of Son and other gymnasts you want if you want to.
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How do Laura Zeng's routines stack up to the top gymnasts? Since she is pretty consistent, I wondered if she isn't more competitive because of low difficulty. How about clubs, since that seems to be one of her strongest events?
 
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Layback11 said:
How do Laura Zeng's routines stack up to the top gymnasts? Since she is pretty consistent, I wondered if she isn't more competitive because of low difficulty. How about clubs, since that seems to be one of her strongest events?
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I will write the analysis here tonight
 
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I've got some news that I think you guys will like :):I have started a rhythmic gymnastics forum! You can find it at http://rgfanforum.boards.net. I'd love some members so if you have any interest in an RG forum, please join! :biggrin:
 
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