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I don't know if Nancy was robbed, but I thank you for bringing this youtube channel into my life.
What better way to spend Saturday night than watch Lu Chen skating to Mariah Carey's "Butterfly" in 1080p, and other gems...
Analyzing Kerrigan and Baiul's Oly programs
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I don't know if Nancy was robbed, but I thank you for bringing this youtube channel into my life.
What better way to spend Saturday night than watch Lu Chen skating to Mariah Carey's "Butterfly" in 1080p, and other gems...
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All of the pink in Oksana's LP costume gave me a headache.
Imagine if Miyahara or Radionova were dressed by Vera Wang. They would have beaten Gracie! Pogorilaya in Vera Wang, would be a Vogue Russia cover girl!
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I don't think fancy costumes have anything to do with judging...
However, I would be very happy if Anna and Elena appeared next season in Vera Wang, because neither seems to hit the costuming mark very often. Satoko's costumes are always nice so the need for couture
is not as great, but of course, the more great costumes, the better! :yes:
I don't think fancy costumes have anything to do with judging...
However, I would be very happy if Anna and Elena appeared next season in Vera Wang, because neither seems to hit the costuming mark very often. Satoko's costumes are always nice so the need for couture
Oh Layback11, you're taking me too literally! I thought this thread was supposed to be fun! But, I agree that Anna and Elena's costumes are horrible. I didn't like Satoko's overworked pink dress much either - it reminds me of my great aunt's foot stool.
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Oh, okay, lol. I am really bad at picking up on sarcasm, so I'm not surprised. LOL! Satoko's pink dress was okay, but I get why it might look like a footstool (as you so fittingly described it
). But Anna and Elena could definitely benefit from a bit of a repackaging. :yes:- Joined
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Yeah agree, though Oksana had several things in her life that messed with her psycologically. So, troubled, talented kid grabs onto skating as her self-worth. Obviously, didn't fix what was wrong. A silver would have been stabilizing. A gold and the hype, media frenzy, fan craziness can un-nerve even the most balanced person.
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This thread can be about other robberies, right? I say Denis Ten was robbed at 2013 World Championships. He was very good and Chan had a pretty hard FS. It's a case where there were so many technical errors that the artistry was lost. In the 6.0 system the judges could have said Chan's skate wasn't very good and given Ten the gold.
In the current system evey deduction has to be justified. We get these surprising results where a mediocre, uninspired skate places high. I think this is a mistake. In the end the judge should be able to give a poor performance 6's in PCS when the skate just doesn't work.
In the current system evey deduction has to be justified. We get these surprising results where a mediocre, uninspired skate places high. I think this is a mistake. In the end the judge should be able to give a poor performance 6's in PCS when the skate just doesn't work.
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I hope we keep the robbery discussion to those events to those well in the past. Anything somewhat recent has been hashed out sufficiently on these boards.
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Oh Lord. Are we going to go back to 2013 or 2014. I hope not. Threads are still infused with Chan bashing or adelina didn't deserve gold comments. I think the OP was meaning to talk about older close results. Ones that aren't fueling uncivil debates. I think I may not be the only one not willing to go through recent competitions.
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Certainly wasn't posting to stir a controvery, bash Chan or anyone else. The author of the thread thought we could discuss how we weigh different aspects of skating. I thought I was doing that - in this case the relationship between technical scores and PCS.
Oksana's joy on ice was infectious. She has that magical quality that few other skaters have. Out of the current group of skaters, only Radionova exudes that as well, though Oksana's artistry and presentation were superior IMO. To this day, I can't believe she was only 16 and skating like this! I don't really care about the argument that Nancy should have won based on the current scoring system. Figure skating was much more subjective in 1994, and Oksana clearly had the more appealing performance(s) in my opinion and the judges' opinions.
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Well, now that you brought it up
... In addition to home cooking, Yuna backed out of the GP series that year, no doubt costing a lot of ticket sales. Not PC. There's no way she would have been allowed to easily skate away with gold.And Nancy would have stood a better chance at gold had Tonya been barred from competition. It was a distracting, zoolike atmosphere that probably resulted in a bit of a bias against the U.S. Tonya had no reason to be there.
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i didn't....someone else did
Well, now that you brought it up
And Nancy would have stood a better chance at gold had Tonya been barred from competition. It was a distracting, zoolike atmosphere that probably resulted in a bit of a bias against the U.S. Tonya had no reason to be there.
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I forgot how much Oksana's skating (mostly the facial expressions and arm movements, actually) annoys me. I can't be objective with this one. Nancy's not my fave skater but I enjoyed watching her most of the time, whereas I usually click out of a YouTube program about halfway through if it's Oksana.
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It is not exactly clear how to evaluate "the judges' opinions." Going in, it was pretty much agreed that there were four Kerrigan judges (USA, Canada, Great Britain and Japan) and four Baiul judges (Ukraine, Czech Republic, Finland and China) who were pre-committed to Nancy or to Oksana, respectively. That left the German judge (he had competed for East Germany) to decide the competition. Hoffman gave Kerrigan 5.8, 5.8 and Oksana 5.7, 5.9, and on the tie-breaker the fifth ordinal and the gold medal went to Baiul.
By the way, Oksana got two third place ordinals (from Canada and Great Britain), with Chen Lu picking up the two second place ordinals. In all, the panel gave these ordinals.
Kerrigan: 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2
Baiul: 1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3,3
So there you go. The panel of judges has spoken.
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In agree in everything you have said.
For me it was hard to watch her in 1994; she looked with a very labile nervous system. It was painful. I even wanted to write her a letter, which I never did of course.
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I couldn't watch either of them all the way through. They both bored me. Wow. Figure skating is sooooo much better now. THANK GOD!
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No call to speak derisively to others. I see you're Chan4ever and you thought I was going after Patrick. Nothing could be further from my mind. I just picked up on a different aspect of the thread. Never mind, I'll find another thread.
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