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You missed me huh? LOL! Actually I missed the pleasure of watching my favorite event with people who make it so much more fun.
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2017 Jr Worlds Free Dance
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You missed me huh? LOL! Actually I missed the pleasure of watching my favorite event with people who make it so much more fun.
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honestly she already gets the same scores so why bother??
Alla&Pavel so close :sad21:
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People keep comparing C/P to these other teams but no one seems to realize that these kids are much younger then say S/K who are a mess and have no hope plus they have Igor as a coach and he won't let them slack off. He's the best in the business tech wise and Meryl when she was younger had a lot of things she needed to improve on too and she did. C/P just need to stay together and continue their improvements. One thing for sure they still won't be skating as Juniors when they are both 20 or 21.
Oh, now I get you. Yes its a generic romantic program, and Anthony is very strong, but because their skating skills are so unbalanced, they remind me of S/K rather than V/M.
EDIT: Good morning y'all. After I had my cup and coffee and had a good talking to, and rewatched these performances, got to say the judges got it right!! Congrats to the medalists!!!
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so, they should to think about change country.
No way this lift should to get L4 https://youtu.be/MhXg2NidJLw?t=197.
Look at this lift of Maia and Alex https://youtu.be/q2iXG_XHZJs?t=206 Skate América, https://youtu.be/UqZoYcUI_vA?t=192 Cup of China
They got L3 at both events, they met all the requirements for a level 4, they were punished for some imperceptible mistake, so, why not the Parsons?
Wow! Interesting ice dance competition. The 3 US couples certainly had distinctive performances. Parsons were superb in some areas, messy lift but, overall, I think they are deserving of the gold. The Russians were excellent, too. I can understand fans of Loboda/Drzod being unhappy. But I look at the Parsons outstanding speed and command on the ice and have to say that they won "by a nose". C/P are rising stars but I agree with those saying that there is disparity in the couple's style and ability which may catch up on them. But they will likely stay as juniors and perhaps can continue to grow together. My concern is for Lorraine and Quinn. This has definitely not been their year. Their coaches seem to pick fast, frenetic music that I'm not sure is their best genre. Also,I wonder if Lorraine who just turned 18 experienced some body maturing issues over the past year which affected her balance and timing. They are still an incredible couple and I sincerely hope they stick together in the seniors. One bad year is not a career. I would love to see some sort of slower, lyrical FD for them next year. They have long lean lines that could be accentuated.
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I agree. Like since next year's SP rhythm is rhumba, I could see M/C skate to a song like "Backstreet's Back"....okay well they did skate to "I Want it That Way" for their EX last season so why not?
But yeah, every team will have an off-season. The thing that's important is how you pick yourself up.
And yeah, they did have slower music that they were able to skate well to last year. The ability to skate well to the right tempo is important. Like I remember last year (Kinda off topic but it proves my point), there was this junior men's skater that skated to a "Grease" medley. And one of the songs was "Grease Lightning." And he was not able to match to the tempo of it so it was VERY jarring. My point is that, the tempo has to be right.
I still liked their programs though. The SD wasn't really an issue. Maybe if they had a different FD, it could have worked out better.
But oh well, next year will be a brand new season, in a different level, with different length of FD, and more elements.
Yes, he stopped several times during rotations and checked with his legs... in seniors they def wouldn't have taken level 4. I don't know if the rules are different for juniors, maybe?
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No, in the communication no. 2003 they don´t separate criteria for junior or senior.
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If one were to only read the comments, you would have thought the Parsons fell on a lift or something. It was a bit sloppy in execution, but it was still a completed and done level 4 rotational lift. There was no stumble or fall in the entrance, middle, or exit. In fact, their sloppy lift looked as good as some parts of L/L's lifts.
Also the panel DID review it. That's why it took so long to get the score. I think what made the difference is that Michael continued the rotations. Albeit it did not look pretty as they usually do it, but he got the job done.
Doris did a nice primer on rotational lifts, including on getting different levels, here: http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/sh...els-amp-GOE-are-Determined-in-Ice-Dance-Lifts
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You look like a drinker for me. Please don't go this way!
LOL... nothing to worry about here
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let's leave the shibs out of this because other event, other level of competition, other panel, other judges...
now tell me what a lift needs to get to level 4... some mistakes will cost a level, one less turn or what not on twizzles for instance... but a wobble doesn't necessarily mean that a lift will lose a level, GOE though, will be affected and it was.
http://imgur.com/e1OToGB. My point with the Shibs is because they met all the criteria and that points apply for junior and seniors. Apparently they got a L3 because Alex does a little pause during the rotation, Alex did not lost a rotation, Maia is changing of position, pose, etc. So, if that was a problem with the Shibs this should apply here too. I love the Parsons and I am happy about they winning, but here you can´t tell me that we can´t compare. We are not comparing if the costume is ugly or beautiful, if the music is bad or good, we are comparing a lift that is scored according to criteria. If I am wrong it is ok, I have no problem. I just want understand it. I want a clear and logical explication.
Resume: if Alex´s problem was his own rotation, so Michael´s rotation has problems too.
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i cannot give you a perfect explanation for two reasons
1) i wasn't there... because seeing this live in the seats of the judges/tech panel is different and they do not get the same camera reviews we do get... and from experience seeing competitions at the rink, and then watching them on tv/youtube, there are things that sometimes look worse on tv... and some things that sometimes look better on tv...2) i don't know enough about ice dance to act as a tech panel here.
what I can say, is that I perceived a messy lift but somehow, they managed to do it...and let's not think they were not penalized because they were. if you compare their goe on every single element, that lift is the only very negative element, so the judges did what they ought to do IMHO.
Was the tech panel competent or not? I give them the benefit of the doubt always, and from hearing some of them in interview, they often also themselves say that they give the benefit of the doubt to the athletes as well as sometimes, they cannot really see on the reviews and they have very little time to make a decision.
Wouldn't it be great if we could get an explanation from the tech panel? My point was simply to say that judges marked that lift way down compared to what the parsons would usually get on a lift... so they did their job...
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