Yuzuru Hanyu: 2014-15 Season
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I'm not sure that's enough, considering Yuzuru was partly injured and couldn't train properly.
May: probably he worked mostly with Jeff and Shae-Lynn, creating the outline of both programs.
July-August: they were working with Brian, preparing to the open practice.
September: Yuzu was injured almost right away after his return (I believe he was very impatient and too rigorous with himself :scowl: ). Remember, they said he needed 3 weeks of rest and reduced trainings?
Brian went with Elizabet to Japan JGP (11-14 September).
October: Brian went with Eliza to Drezden JGP (1-4 October), with Nam to Autumn Classic (15-17 October) and with Javi to SA (23 -26 October).
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Oh no. So does this mean Yuzuru, despite his 3 months in Canada, onky worked with Brian for about 1.5 months to 2 months at most this off-season?? Not enough, definitely not enough!!
Maybe Yuzuru was working with Tracy Wilson for his skating skills by the time Borser was away.
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8 weeks if we talk about continuous traning prior to GP event. Out of which he had to lessen the time for practice due to back problems. And when he was back to Canada he was worn out from the season and lots of long flights.
Maybe two months are enough for someone who had time to rest, let go of everything that happenned during the previous season, not bothered by traumas, had already done all the work with choreography. Maybe - I am not a specialist in the field. Then again: if you want to change the technical difficulty of your programs drastically- do you manage to do that during 2 months? I doubt that.
Most people think she was referring to those scenes where he was rearranging the program in his head. But most of us have already seen him do that kind of gesturing many times, to us it would probably look normal. If you're not familiar with this little habit and have just seen him crash, I guess it might look strange to you. But I don't think there's anything to worry about that comment.
According to the Japanese media, Yuzu train only one hour on-ice 3 days and rest one day due to back injury.... Can you imagine how limited training time he has? I heard Yuzu is very efficient skater and doesn't need too much on-ice training time.(He used to train less 7 hours a week in junior) However, when it comes to new programs and new layout, I think the training he had before COC is far from enough. I think that's why he said his state is just so so at his first interview in Shanghai.
Oh, I see.
Well, what do we know about the location where he was during injury?
1) One of the Japanese news source wrote:
As far as I know, only one Japanese source mentioned "kokunai" hospital, others didn't. Not really convincing :disapp:.
2) On the basis of Brian's interview we may conclude Yuzuru was training in Toronto at least since 9th September.
[Injury took place]
17 September - they submitted medical certificate to the JSF
23 September - officially WD from Finlandia Trophy.
I'm sure of that :yes: However Tracy can't really control his jumping routine.
Yes, we've seen him doing that in practices before - even when he is in good health, and is not changing his program.
As I said before I think it's unknow actually, no official news/pics/clips about the location.
I was thinking about JSF and the possibility they wanted Yuzuru to have 50 summer ice shows in order to earn money.. is it true only 10% goes to the skater? is it JSF who hires Orser?
Thanks in advance!
For me Brian's interview is quite an official source
. Hmm, I always thought that skaters get a fixed sum not %% of the shows' revenue (of course skaters like Hanyu, Mao, Takahashi get more than others).
However, I have no specific information about that, sorry.
Concerning Yuzuru's coaching I have no idea how their contract looks like
For me Brian's interview is quite an official source
Hmm, I always thought that skaters get a fixed sum not %% of the shows' revenue (of course skaters like Hanyu, Mao, Takahashi get more than others).
However, I have no specific information about that, sorry.
Concerning Yuzuru's coaching I have no idea how their contract looks like
thanks!
Please let's stop gossiping about his training schedule/coaching situation/perceived prepared or unpreparedness for the season/contract with the JSF/how much he earns/where was Hanyu at X date, how long was Hanyu at Y place, where was Z injury reported have taken place etc etc...
In other news, seems like Hanyu was discussed on a program called "The Legend": https://twitter.com/hanyuyuzurufeed/status/532859163097829376. (Seems like it was probably recorded before the incident, shame because I would have loved to hear a panel of sports people talking about it.)
It might be hasty to say this before his career is actually over, but I do think he has all the potential to be one of the sport's legends. It will certainly be amazing to watch him progress there.
In other news, seems like Hanyu was discussed on a program called "The Legend": https://twitter.com/hanyuyuzurufeed/status/532859163097829376. (Seems like it was probably recorded before the incident, shame because I would have loved to hear a panel of sports people talking about it.)
It might be hasty to say this before his career is actually over, but I do think he has all the potential to be one of the sport's legends. It will certainly be amazing to watch him progress there.
Pardon me, maybe your wording is not correct?
Citations from interview, exact dates of his schedule (proved be photos or other media sources) which give us the picture of Yuzuru's activities these summer/autumn are by no means "gossips".
Concerning other matters (revenue, contracts) I know nothing and I say nothing.
You may watch this show here, indeed it was recorded before the incident.
http://dai.ly/x29slr1
Not everything that is published by a magazine corresponds to the truth. For example, everything regarding money and percentage is nothing but gossip, as there is no official info available. All that you see is journalistic speculation, as this kind of information is private and bound by contracts. When there was talk about what Yuzuru's CM fee was they were talking about estimates, for example.
The article that was posted a few hours ago, which was translated from Chinese and originally published in a Chinese sports website, contains the same information of an article published by Josei Jishin in japanese, and shingalas (if I remember correctly) had already pointed out this article and how it comes from gossip magazine, and that its contents are to be taken with a grain of salt.
Talking about how he trains, with whom, and what he does in training is even more speculation. Remember that Yuzuru does not work only with Brian Orser and Tracy Wilson but also with the other coaches there -- specialists in jumps, spins, skating skills etc.
As Kalina and shingalas have pointed out, the "information" comes from a gossip magazine, and is NOT a credible source.
What is the point of dissecting exactly how many days Yuzuru spent in training in Canada? How much time with Brian? I travel internationally for work and vacations, and traveling is exhausting and time-consuming even if you manage to fly Business or First class. Then there is time lost for time differences, as it is not possible to wake up and start working in the middle of the night.
I think we can all agree that with the parades, awards, shows, special exhibitions (i.e. Sendai) that Yuzuru had an EXTREMELY busy off-season. He even admitted in an interview that he was somewhat "burnt out". So it is not surprising that he was more prone to injury and less prepared for start of the new season, especially with extremely ambitious programs.
Personally, I am hoping he withdraws from NHK and even the remainder of the season to recover completely. If his goal is the 2018 Olympics, then he needs to think carefully and strategically about how best to get there.
What is the point of dissecting exactly how many days Yuzuru spent in training in Canada? How much time with Brian? I travel internationally for work and vacations, and traveling is exhausting and time-consuming even if you manage to fly Business or First class. Then there is time lost for time differences, as it is not possible to wake up and start working in the middle of the night.
I think we can all agree that with the parades, awards, shows, special exhibitions (i.e. Sendai) that Yuzuru had an EXTREMELY busy off-season. He even admitted in an interview that he was somewhat "burnt out". So it is not surprising that he was more prone to injury and less prepared for start of the new season, especially with extremely ambitious programs.
Personally, I am hoping he withdraws from NHK and even the remainder of the season to recover completely. If his goal is the 2018 Olympics, then he needs to think carefully and strategically about how best to get there.
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Totally agree. After what happened at CoC. I don't care anymore about medals or placement and scores, I only hope for his health. Even if he has to take a season off, that doesn't matter. Let the others take the medals if they want. He already has them all. Now his health is the most important thing. I hope he rest well and stay away from the media and the competitions.
But for sure he will be back at least when it's National, knowing him.
so for now just hope that whatever he will decide, his health and his body will not suffer too much.
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I think you are a little over dramatic Meoima He needs some rest, but I think he should be fully ok with health for Nationals. What he needs is to learn to say big NO for JSF when they are pushing him to do zylions of ice shows, and do what they want. He is the champion and he should know to say NO and focus on his goals at first. His real fans understand that at first place is his health, and his competitive goals, not zylion of ice shows.
He needs some rest, but I think he should be fully ok with health for Nationals. What he needs is to learn to say big NO for JSF when they are pushing him to do zylions of ice shows, and do what they want. He is the champion and he should know to say NO and focus on his goals at first. His real fans understand that at first place is his health, and his competitive goals, not zylion of ice shows.I think you are a little over dramatic Meoima
I agree he should be fine by Nationals. Cutting out of the GP series would be a wise option given his condition. He would have enough time to heal his injuries over and can rework his jumps and hopefully by then in full health by Nationals, he'll be able to deliver stellar performances! I am getting impatient to see a clean phantom program but that will only happen when he gets enough rest and has time to practice his jumps.
