2017 JGP Italy Ladies SP

nimi · Oct 13, 2017

Chemistry66 said:
I like the shade of grey of Elisabetta Leccardi's (ITA) dress and all the sparkles.

And she skated well! Even though I'm not a fan of Celine Dion and Leccardi didn't have much speed going in/out of her jumps I didn't really mind. Brava! :thumbsup:

Chemistry66 · Oct 13, 2017

Alexandra Feigin of BUL in a black dress with the top clearly supposed to mimic a leather jacket. Fits her music.

She's starting to break out a smile in this footwork. Glad to see her enjoying it.

Tolstoj · Oct 13, 2017

FSGMT said:
I'm in Egna watching it live and it's definitely a beautiful venue for a beautiful competition!

I'd say Samodurova was a bit overscored in PCS, especially in interpretation, she wasn't as expressive as the scores say. Rika has doubtlessly been the highlight of the day for me: Kostornaia's jumps were better but what a wonderful program her Kung Fu Piano is! :luv17:

Yeah she was smart there because she played a lot with the judges, so maybe less entertaining for the audience but i can see why she has the highest score in interpretation.

I'd say though that Alena's transitions were far ahead the rest of the field (steps in and out on every single element), she deserved something more on that.

lanark · Oct 13, 2017

FSGMT said:
I'm in Egna watching it live and it's definitely a beautiful venue for a beautiful competition!

I'd say Samodurova was a bit overscored in PCS, especially in interpretation, she wasn't as expressive as the scores say. Rika has doubtlessly been the highlight of the day for me: Kostornaia's jumps were better but what a wonderful program her Kung Fu Piano is! :luv17:

I'm not an expert, but I thought Sofia performed so well! She was even singing a bit, and her expression was good, at least from the live stream, it looked like that. In the beginning she looked a bit nervous, but then she did amazing! And her hand movements are gold in this SP.
I always see people talking about how watching in the spot is different from watching videos, so I'm not trying to disagree. Just saying what I felt.

lanark · Oct 13, 2017

Tolstoj said:
Yeah she was smart there because she played a lot with the judges, so maybe less entertaining for the audience but i can see why she has the highest score in interpretation.

I'd say though that Alena's transitions were far ahead the rest of the field (steps in and out on every single element), she deserved something more on that.

You can already see the protocols? Where?

Chemistry66 · Oct 13, 2017

Annely Vahi of EST in black sparkly top/red skirt dress with a flower in her hair.

Her sit spin was cool. And as Ted said, right in the sun. That had to be annoying.

nimi · Oct 13, 2017

lanark said:
You can already see the protocols? Where?

The live results page has the PCS. http://www.isuresults.com/results/season1718/jgpita2017/SEG003.HTM

FSGMT · Oct 13, 2017

Tolstoj said:
Yeah she was smart there because she played a lot with the judges, so maybe less entertaining for the audience but i can see why she has the highest score in interpretation.

I'd say though that Alena's transitions were far ahead the rest of the field (steps in and out on every single element), she deserved something more on that.

lanark said:
I'm not an expert, but I thought Sofia performed so well! She was even singing a bit, and her expression was good, at least from the live stream, it looked like that. In the beginning she looked a bit nervous, but then she did amazing! And her hand movements are gold in this SP.
I always see people talking about how watching in the spot is different from watching videos, so I'm not trying to disagree. Just saying what I felt.

I'd say Tolstoj is right: her program (just like Alena's in that area) was 90% directed towards the judges, so it was probably more enjoyable from the stream than from the stands here

I'm sorry for the Estonian girl: she looked really fine to me, especially in PCS 19 seems really too low :scratch2:

lanark · Oct 13, 2017

nimi said:
The live results page has the PCS. http://www.isuresults.com/results/season1718/jgpita2017/SEG003.HTM

Thanks!

The scores are REALLY close!
I hope no one falls in the long.
You know what will be funny? If Ye Lim is 5th and Young is 6th. Because Alena was 1st, then Kihira 2nd, then Sofia 3rd, then Araki 4th. :laugh:

atsumiri · Oct 13, 2017

if they gave Rika and Sofia 6.82 and 6.86 for TR
Alena should get 8+..... not 6.89 .... it's simply not right...
Because she is clearly far ahead the rest of the field here.
not just in TR.....

whatif · Oct 13, 2017

Kostornaya too close to Kihira in PCS. There is at least 3 point gap there, in Kostornaya's favour.

FSGMT · Oct 13, 2017

atsumiri said:
if they gave Rika and Sofia 6.82 and 6.86 for TR
Alena should get 8+..... not 6.89 .... it's simply not right...
Because she is clearly far ahead the rest of the field here.
not just in TR.....

whatif said:
Kostornaya too close to Kihira in PCS. There is at least 3 point gap there, in Kostornaya's favour.

I beg to differ. Alena maybe had a bit more transitions, but she was not faster and not more expressive than Rika. On the contrary, her performance felt much more "executed" than interpreted to me. Rika's choreography was more sophisticated and varied, and she really projected her feelings to the audience

yyyskate · Oct 13, 2017

any program is inferior to a transition cluttered program. because, we did the moves and you did not! simple as that. That is "some people's" reasoning... And will always be their reasoning.

Chemistry66 · Oct 13, 2017

Lucrezia Gennaro of ITA in a purple and gold dress.

Wow her music on her bio hasn't been updated since the 2015-2016 season

You can see the tape under her tights and obviously the knee compression sleeve. Hope she's not in too much pain.

whatif · Oct 13, 2017

FSGMT said:
I beg to differ. Alena maybe had a bit more transitions, but she was not faster and not more expressive than Rika. On the contrary, her performance felt much more "executed" than interpreted to me. Rika's choreography was more sophisticated and varied, and she really projected her feelings to the audience

OK then.

Spirals for Miles · Oct 13, 2017

At least Alenka had real choreo...
Not trying to offend, just stating opinions...

Chemistry66 · Oct 13, 2017

Nicola Korck of NZL in a very princessy white (or very faint pink maybe...cant' tell if it's just reflecting the red on the boards) dress

ugh, fall on her first jump

Very nice Rippon jump, wow. Solid.

Layback positioning needs more work, as does a lot of the tech, but that last jump was great!

lanark · Oct 13, 2017

FSGMT said:
I beg to differ. Alena maybe had a bit more transitions, but she was not faster and not more expressive than Rika. On the contrary, her performance felt much more "executed" than interpreted to me. Rika's choreography was more sophisticated and varied, and she really projected her feelings to the audience

I felt so too.
Maybe it's the music choice, maybe it's the choreography. I don't know. But I fell like Kihira had more flow and emotion. That counts for something, right?
I'm still learning about skating components and all that, and from what I've learned I'd say the scores have been fair for the top girls. They have different styles and similar abilities, I feel. They have their strong points and things to be improved, all of them. And overall, they are simply equally amazing.

atsumiri · Oct 13, 2017

FSGMT said:
I beg to differ. Alena maybe had a bit more transitions, but she was not faster and not more expressive than Rika. On the contrary, her performance felt much more "executed" than interpreted to me. Rika's choreography was more sophisticated and varied, and she really projected her feelings to the audience

hahaha

good joke

nimi · Oct 13, 2017

Spirals for Miles said:
At least Alenka had real choreo...
Not trying to offend, just stating opinions...

Are you seriously trying to say Rika had no real choreo? Just... What?!

Anyway... Props for the new zealander, I've heard they have really hard time getting ice time there...

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