2018 4CC entry (pre-event)

This thread is for discussions about possible entries from each 4CC participating countries. As the national events to the relevant countries approaching (and some may have already decided on the skaters to participate in 4CC 2018), please feel free to add to the info about (possible) skaters' list.

Entries from Chinese Taipei:

Men:
Chih-I Tsao
Micah Tang
Meng Ju Lee (depending on if minimum TES cleared)

Lady:
Amy Lin

(Source in Chinese: https://news.tvbs.com.tw/sports/831522)

Entries from South Korea: (I suppose the entries to 4CC have been decided after the ranking competition last weekend, can anyone confirm the entries?)

Entries from China:

(unconfirmed): I've been reading from twitter that Han Yan will probably skip China Nationals in preparation of 4CC.

Adding: also reading from weibo (in Chinese) that Yu Xiaoyu confirms in post GPF interview that Y/Z are NOT planning to participate in 4CC.

How many people will skip 4CC for Olympics prep? There were quite a few in 2014, while others, like Kanako competed in both events.

solar said:

How many people will skip 4CC for Olympics prep? There were quite a few in 2014, while others, like Kanako competed in both events.

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i think the skaters who will not be skating for the team events will be just fine if they compete at 4CC. i actually think it will be beneficial for them if they compete especially if they are in the bubble. they get one more chance to prove and test themselves especially the ladies who have more than 3 weeks before the competition in Pyeongchang starts.

cohkaix said:

Entries from South Korea: (I suppose the entries to 4CC have been decided after the ranking competition last weekend, can anyone confirm the entries?)

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Third (and last) Olympic selection competition is still to come? (Nationals in January?)

Maybe that is when they will announce 4CC and World's teams too?

YesWay said:

Third (and last) Olympic selection competition is still to come? (Nationals in January?)

Maybe that is when they will announce 4CC and World's teams too?

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I just checked the thread on the ranking competition held in Dec 1st. In the very first discussion info it states clearly that this ranking competition will decide the entries to 4CC. I also recall reading somewhere about ladies' entries to 4CC has been decided (seems to be Dabin, Hanul, and Soyoun). But somehow I couldn't find the rest. Perhaps the formal announcement has been held due to the participation of Oly team event as well? Anyway, please feel free to share if anyone has the compete entries to 4CC from South Korea.

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Entries from Chinese Taipei:

Men:
Chih-I Tsao
Micah Tang
Meng Ju Lee (depending on if minimum TES cleared)


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Lee didn't get the minimum TES for SP at Bosphorus Cup yesterday. He scored 23.9 and he needed 25. I believe there are no more competitions available to do it now.

Kittosuni said:

i think the skaters who will not be skating for the team events will be just fine if they compete at 4CC. i actually think it will be beneficial for them if they compete especially if they are in the bubble. they get one more chance to prove and test themselves especially the ladies who have more than 3 weeks before the competition in Pyeongchang starts.

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That might be OK for the Asian skaters who don't have to travel that far, but not for the North American skaters who would lose a day and a half of practice time traveling each way, plus the practice time lost while at the competition itself. On top of that, there is the exhaustion from jet lag at both ends of the trip.

Don't expect to see any US or Canadian Olympians at 4CC.

As the Bosphorus Cup was the last chance to get the technical scores required to take part at 4 Continents (with no luck for Meng-Ju Lee and Amelia Jackson), I start the projected entry list.
I'll update it when official entries will be announced by the national federations.

Men (31 - possible new record, current one is 29, Taipei 2014)

AUS (3) Kerry (national champion) and probably Dodds A (national’s 2nd) & Webster (national’s 3rd)
CAN (3) TBD between 10 skaters
CHN (3) TBD between Guan, Jin, Li, Liu, Yan and Zhang
TPE (2) Tang & Tsao (official)
HKG (3) Ip, Lee & Wong
JPN (3) Uno, Tanaka & Mura (official)
KAZ (2) Rakimgaliev & Ten
MAS (2) Chew & Yee
MEX (1) Carrillo
PHI (1) Martinez
KOR (3) Cha, Lee JH & Lee SH (official)
THA (1) Lynette
USA (3) TBD between 15 skaters
UZB (1) Ge

Lee (TPE) only reached the FP score.
Panikhin (KAZ) only reached the SP score.

Ladies (between 25 and 29)

AUS (1-2) Craine (national champion) & Han (if recovered from injury)
BRA (1) Williams
CAN (3) TBD between Austman, Chartrand, Daleman, Decelles E, Long, Osmond, Pineault and Tamura
CHN (3) TBD between Li J, Li X, Li Z and Zhao
TPE (1) Lin (official)
HKG (1-2) Ma (if recovered from injury) & So
JPN (3) Miyahara, Sakamoto & Mihara (official)
KAZ (1-2) Tursynbaeva & Mambekova (if still active)
PHI (1) Perticheto
KOR (3) Choi DB, Kim HN & Park SY (official)
SGP (2) Ing & Yu
RSA (0-1) Du Toit (if still active)
THA (2) Lamsam & Sangkagalo
USA (3) TBD between 19 skaters

Jackson (AUS) and Hartmann (SGP) only reached the FP score.
Kwong (HKG) and Del Rio (MEX) only reached the SP score.

Pairs (between 14 and 16)

AUS (1) Alexandrovskaya/Windsor
CAN (3) TBD between 7 pairs
CHN (3) Peng/Jin, Sui/Han, Wang/Wang, Yu/Zhang or Zhang/Song
PRK (0-2) Pak/Song & Ryom/Kim (will depend on political decisions)
JPN (3) Miura/Ichihashi, Suzaki/Kihara & Takahashi/Shibata (official)
KOR (1) Kim/Kam (official)
USA (3) TBD between 10 pairs

Stephens/Dodds (AUS) only reached the FP score.

Ice dance (between 15 and 16)

AUS (2-3) Friend/Badaoui (if recovered from injury), Hew-Low/McKernan and Kerry/Dodds
CAN (3) TBD between 7 pairs
CHN (3) Chen/Zhao, Guo/Zhao, Song/Sun, Wang/Liu or Wang/Zhao
JPN (3) Fukase/Tateno, Komatsubara/Koleto & Muramoto/Reed (official)
KOR (1) Min/Gamelin (official)
USA (3) TBD between 10 pairs

With the completion of Japan Nationals, here we have the complete 4CC Team Japan entries:

Men:
Shoma Uno, Keiji Tanaka, Mura Takahito (Alt 1 Kazuki Tomono) (Alt 2 Daisuke Murakami) (Al 3 Ryuju Hino)

Ladies:
Satoko Miyahara, Kaori Sakamoto, Mai Mihara (Alt 1 Wakaba Higuchi) (Alt 2 Rika Hongo) (Alt 3 Marin Honda) (Alt 4 Yuna Shiraiwa)

Pairs:
Riku Miura / Shoya Ichihashi
Narumi Takahashi / Ryo Shibata
Miu Suzaki / Ryuichi Kihara

Ice dance:
Kana Muramoto / Chris Reed
Misato Komatsubara / Timothy Koleto
Rikako Fukase / Aru Tateno

Team Korea (confirmed)

Ladies
Dabin Choi
Hanul Kim
Soyoun Park
Sub1. Yujin Choi
Sub2. Sohyun An
Sub3. Seo young Lee

Men
June hyoung Lee
Jun hwan Cha
Sihyeong Lee
Sub1. Sejong Byun
Sub2. Jinseo Kim
Sub3. Geon hyoung An

Pairs
Kyueun Kim/Alex Kangchan Kam

Ice Dance
Yura Min/Alexander Gamelin

http://www.fcc2018taipei.com/event-schedule/
schedule


All times UTC +8

You can use this to convert times
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldcl...5&p7=166&p8=101&p9=31&p10=136&p11=286&p12=256

Official entries

We're still waiting for US and Canadian entries
30 men, Michael Martinez (PHI) missing
24 ladies, Isadora Williams (BRA) and Alison Perticheto (PHI) missing. Williams usually doesn't compete at 4CC. Brooklee Han back from injury, Aiza Mambekova too
14 pairs, only 2 from China... But the North korean pair will be there
14 dance teams, Friend/Badaoui back from injury

Men
1 Andrew DODDS AUS 1
2 Brendan KERRY AUS 1
3 Mark WEBSTER AUS 1
Jordan DODDS AUS 1 S
James MIN AUS 1 S
4 CAN TBA 1 CAN 2
5 CAN TBA 2 CAN 2
6 CAN TBA 3 CAN 2
7 Boyang JIN CHN 3
8 Han YAN CHN 3
9 He ZHANG CHN 3
Tangxu LI CHN 3 S
10 Micah TANG TPE 4
11 Chih-I TSAO TPE 4
12 Leslie Man Cheuk IP HKG 5
13 Harry Hau Yin LEE HKG 5
14 Harrison Jon-Yen WONG HKG 5
15 Takahito MURA JPN 6
16 Keiji TANAKA JPN 6
17 Shoma UNO JPN 6
Ryuju HINO JPN 6 S
Daisuke MURAKAMI JPN 6 S
Kazuki TOMONO JPN 6 S
18 Abzal RAKIMGALIEV KAZ 7
19 Denis TEN KAZ 7
20 Kai Xiang CHEW MAS 8
21 Julian Zhi Jie YEE MAS 8
22 Donovan CARRILLO MEX 9
23 Junhwan CHA KOR 10
24 June Hyoung LEE KOR 10
25 Sihyeong LEE KOR 10
Geon Hyeong AN KOR 10 S
Jinseo KIM KOR 10 S
26 Micah Kai LYNETTE THA 11
27 USA TBA 1 USA 12
28 USA TBA 2 USA 12
29 USA TBA 3 USA 12
30 Misha GE UZB 13

Ladies
1 Kailani CRAINE AUS 1
2 Brooklee HAN AUS 1
3 CAN TBA 1 CAN 2
4 CAN TBA 2 CAN 2
5 CAN TBA 3 CAN 2
6 Xiangning LI CHN 3
7 Ziquan ZHAO CHN 3
8 Amy LIN TPE 4
9 Joanna SO HKG 5
10 Mai MIHARA JPN 6
11 Satoko MIYAHARA JPN 6
12 Kaori SAKAMOTO JPN 6
Wakaba HIGUCHI JPN 6 S
Marin HONDA JPN 6 S
Rika HONGO JPN 6 S
Yuna SHIRAIWA JPN 6 S
13 Aiza MAMBEKOVA KAZ 7
14 Elizabet TURSYNBAEVA KAZ 7
15 Dabin CHOI KOR 8
16 Hanul KIM KOR 8
17 Soyoun PARK KOR 8
So Hyun AN KOR 8 S
Yujin CHOI KOR 8 S
18 Chloe ING SGP 9
19 Shuran YU SGP 9
20 Thita LAMSAM THA 10
21 Natalie SANGKAGALO THA 10
22 USA TBA 1 USA 11
23 USA TBA 2 USA 11
24 USA TBA 3 USA 11

Pairs
1 Ekaterina ALEXANDROVSKAYA / Harley WINDSOR AUS 1
2 CAN TBA 1 / CAN TBA 1 CAN 2
3 CAN TBA 2 / CAN TBA 2 CAN 2
4 CAN TBA 3 / CAN TBA 3 CAN 2
5 Cheng PENG / Yang JIN CHN 3
6 Wenjing SUI / Cong HAN CHN 3
7 Tae Ok RYOM / Ju Sik KIM PRK 4
8 Riku MIURA / Shoya ICHIHASHI JPN 5
9 Miu SUZAKI / Ryuichi KIHARA JPN 5
10 Narumi TAKAHASHI / Ryo SHIBATA JPN 5
11 Kyueun KIM / Alex Kang Chan KAM KOR 6
12 USA TBA 1 / USA TBA 1 USA 7
13 USA TBA 2 / USA TBA 2 USA 7
14 USA TBA 3 / USA TBA 3 USA 7

Ice dance
1 Matilda FRIEND / William BADAOUI AUS 1
2 Chantelle KERRY / Andrew DODDS AUS 1
3 CAN TBA 1 / CAN TBA 1 CAN 2
4 CAN TBA 2 / CAN TBA 2 CAN 2
5 CAN TBA 3 / CAN TBA 3 CAN 2
6 Linshu SONG / Zhuoming SUN CHN 3
7 Shiyue WANG / Xinyu LIU CHN 3
8 Rikako FUKASE / Aru TATENO JPN 4
9 Misato KOMATSUBARA / Timothy KOLETO JPN 4
10 Kana MURAMOTO / Chris REED JPN 4
11 Yura MIN / Alexander GAMELIN KOR 5
12 USA TBA 1 / USA TBA 1 USA 6
13 USA TBA 2 / USA TBA 2 USA 6
14 USA TBA 3 / USA TBA 3 USA 6

For US ladies 3 TBA, they go to: Starr Andrews, Mariah Bell and Ashley Wagner
(Alt 1: Angela Wang, Alt 2: Amber Glenn, Alt 3: Courtney Hicks)

Andrew Dodds is going to be busy competing singles and ice dance! has this ever been done before?

Not many people do double duty at the same event, let alone singles and ice dance. Normally it is singles and pair.

Since Jun hwan Cha selected for Olympics, he decided not to participate 4CC at one interview article. We will see the changing in entries.

With the current Ladies lineup, I doubt Ashley Wagner will stay on the roster. Some countries (e.g. Japan) are sending their top skaters for Olympic tuneups.

Ashley will withdraw, I would guess, given the odds of not medaling.

Related to this topic, AW won't be in USFSAs top envelope any more, if the past is any indication. Skating at 4CCs would give her more funding if she went, I suppose, but would only keep her in the top tier if she medalled? She’s not set up well for this competition this year, and it’s very possible she won’t be top 3... This is going to kill her dress budget....

flipsydoodle said:

With the current Ladies lineup, I doubt Ashley Wagner will stay on the roster. Some countries (e.g. Japan) are sending their top skaters for Olympic tuneups.

Ashley will withdraw, I would guess, given the odds of not medaling.

Ever since 4CCs became a more competitive and significant competition in the last 5 years, Ashley has turned down assignments to go. It’s one of the competitions she doesn’t “do”. It doesn’t look as though there’s a whole lot of incentive to change her view and “do” it this year, and she’s peeved by her scores at nationals.

Since AW thinks she should have been more “fairly” scored at Nationals and selected for the Olympic team, and she is publicly “furious” about the way she has been judged compared with other skaters, I doubt she’ll accept the “runner up” assignment of 4 CCs. It was already a competition—like Skate America—that was below her list of competitions she felt were “must-do’s”.

On the other hand, related to this topic, AW won't be in USFSA’s top envelope any more, if the past is any indication. Skating at 4CCs would give her more funding if she went, I suppose, but would only keep her in the top tier if she medalled? She’s not set up well for this competition this year, and it’s very possible she won’t be top 3... This is going to kill her dress budget....

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Aren't threads in the Arena enough for your Ashley hatred? Let it go.

Ashley went to 4CC twice when it was very competitive. She won it with two strong skates the same year she was very, very close to medaling at worlds too.

It sounds like she’ll be there. If she’s hungry and determined - her chances of medalling should good. Her jump combos looked pretty solid in those Nats practice videos. The Japanese ladies will be a serious threat, but she’s faced worse odds. I really hope she goes, redeems herself and sets up for a more positive (probably final) next season.