I understand viewers are important, but it's not the governing body's job to cater to casual fans.
Miner sparks judges with quad Salchow
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I understand viewers are important, but it's not the governing body's job to cater to casual fans.
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You don't need to tell me this, I know.
I'm saying it's hard to justify to my non-skating fans, who see this as judges playing favorites
Which it is, to a degree
A good news is there will be more empty seats at Skate America and even at Nats.
I get you, but where do you draw the line? In 20 years will the second mark be awarded by "loudest applause"?
I just stated a objective observation, and am sure USFS will appreciate it.
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It's going to add to people not taking the sport seriously. Your results don't matter, just if some random unknown people in a committee like you
You don't even know why Ross was left off the team. Someone on the committee might not like his personality, or his 5 o'clock shadow, or his costume. The decision is not even transparent
Actually, I think they elaborated on their decision.
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Where? I'm not being snarky, I genuinely don't know where the article about their justification for decision is
The presser is still going on or has just finished (I don't have IN). There are some comments on it in this thread here: https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?68421-2018-US-Championships-Sr-Men-FS/page139
Sam Auxier: "We looked at the criteria, average scores through the season and head-to-heads. On the criteria, we looked Adam's seasons. He had one of the strongest seasons of all the men based on average scores. He was selected for Worlds last year but had to pull out due to injury."
Sam Auxier: "We looked at the criteria, average scores through the season and head-to-heads. On the criteria, we looked Adam's seasons. He had one of the strongest seasons of all the men based on average scores. He was selected for Worlds last year but had to pull out due to injury."
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There's a lack of transparency here that's upsetting. They need to say exactly what are the criteria for getting on the team, and stick with it.
Give a point value for a medal in the GPF of that year, or even the Grand Prix regular competition. OK, so Adam has two silver medals? He already has, say four points. Ross has 0? He has no points. Then give points for medals in the nationals. Whoever has the most points wins, with Nationals as the tie breaker, say. Of course, that would cause Jason to probably displace Vincent, and putting Jason on the team was never in the discussion for whatever reason.
Or go by scores. The people with the highest short and long program scores of the season are on, because they're needed for the team.That would cover a potential medalist having a bad day, slight injury or cold, or even having to miss the competition.
A case could be made that Ross Miner has not been a great skater over the years, but I feel bad for him. It's clear that the backroom deals etc. are alive and well.
Give a point value for a medal in the GPF of that year, or even the Grand Prix regular competition. OK, so Adam has two silver medals? He already has, say four points. Ross has 0? He has no points. Then give points for medals in the nationals. Whoever has the most points wins, with Nationals as the tie breaker, say. Of course, that would cause Jason to probably displace Vincent, and putting Jason on the team was never in the discussion for whatever reason.
Or go by scores. The people with the highest short and long program scores of the season are on, because they're needed for the team.That would cover a potential medalist having a bad day, slight injury or cold, or even having to miss the competition.
A case could be made that Ross Miner has not been a great skater over the years, but I feel bad for him. It's clear that the backroom deals etc. are alive and well.
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Okay I'll wait for the press conference to be transcribed and article written up
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Isn't he a coach of Ross?
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Yes he is.
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Then Ross' coach leaving the sport is quite understandable but it will be duly a loss to Ross. What a sad situation it is.
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I don't think Ross is going to recommend figure skating to anyone he knows ...
Here's the tweet: https://twitter.com/taiskates/status/950037761678966784
I just heard my friend/skating coach Mark Mitchell is leaving the world of figure skating
I don't blame him, the USFSA is appalling.
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Yes he is and he knows how it feels to be bumped off an Olympic team. Yeah he got World's and did better than Todd but Miner didn't even get that. Not even first alternate. Sad.
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It is demoralizing for Mitchell...it's going to hurt the sport if coaches that succeed in getting their skaters to nail their jumps and get onto the podium start quitting due to perceived favoritism for the Olympics. Ross' quad and axel looked solid.
