2018-19 Japanese Ladies' figure skating

Globetrotter · Dec 19, 2018

kimi492 said:
I don’t know that I extrapolate that Marin is lazy - maybe her English isn’t good enough to understand Raf? I don’t think I’ve ever seen Marin say anything to Raf in the Kiss & Cry or at the boards,etc. She gives off the impression she understands almost no English, which in a way could be construed as lazy I suppose, I know I certainly would want to be able to understand my coach. Compared to other skaters I follow with foreign coaches like Yelim with Tom or Eunsoo with Raf and her TSL interview - I feel confident they can at least get the gist of what’s happening as I’ve seen both speak English.

After uprooting yourself thousands of miles, I am pretty sure one will find ways to max things out. Besides, the skating lingo will be familiar. Triple lutz will still be triple lutz. My gut feel is that Marin is still dealing with the cultural change and perhaps some homesickness. She is more an inspirational type skater rather than the perspiration sort like Satoko, so it takes more to get her going.

doublequad · Dec 20, 2018

does anyone have links to when everyon was drawing their numbers everyone was so cute

Erin S · Dec 20, 2018

Does anyone have a good way to translate the skate order page? They haven't updated the English site and when I plug the whole list into google translate the results are...creative.

cohkaix · Dec 20, 2018

Just a reminder: all the information relevant to All Japan Nationals (drawing, starting order, news, TV reports...etc) is being posted under here in Forum: 2018-19 Japanese National Figure Skating Championships.

satine · Dec 20, 2018

DenissVFan said:
Here's an interesting article that suggests that non-native speakers of English understand other non-native speakers better than native speakers, which I mostly agree with. Raf, a non-native speaker, works with international skaters, such as Michal and Romain, so he has experience in this area. I believe that to effectively communicate with your coach you need to be at least at the intermediate level. Anything below that is not optimal. Evgenia's English is pretty good right now but she still said she had to adjust to speaking only English when she moved to Canada. Marin is in an ideal situation to learn English, though: she can acquire it through immersion on a daily basis and if she gets additional tutoring and also studies on her own, she'll soon improve. She also has teammates who speak English who can help her.

Interesting article. I had wondered about this myself, particularly regarding the use of more 'basic' lingo (excluding homonyms, no slang, etc). I have always noticed that, unless you are extremely frequent in a second language, you tend to speak more slowly and are more careful in choosing your phrasing. Nice to know there's some truth in my little theory

Lunalovesskating · Dec 21, 2018

Does someone have a livestream for the ladies sp? The Fuji stream does not work even with setupvpn

Lunalovesskating · Dec 21, 2018

Finally found a stream that actually works for me without vpn if anyone is interested: https://ok.ru/live/1457722760723

satine · Dec 21, 2018

Lunalovesskating said:
Does someone have a livestream for the ladies sp? The Fuji stream does not work even with setupvpn

There are three linked in the women's sp thread if you have not already seen them

Lunalovesskating · Dec 21, 2018

satine said:
There are three linked in the women's sp thread if you have not already seen them

I do not have the Golden Skate subscription that is why I cannot see this part of the forum

TallyT · Dec 21, 2018

combinationspin said:
And I have heard that when a Japanese person nods, it doesn’t necessarily mean they understand what you say or agree to it. It only means they are listening to you, you hold their attention. Hope Marin and her team can come to terms with these little cultural differences, too.

Yes, I have heard that Yuzuru did that when he first went to Canada, I think it was Brian himself who said that it was a while before he found this out :laugh:

so Marin is quite possibly doing the same thing.

And we shouldn't underestimate how hard English is, simply because it is second nature to us... I know some non-native speakers who sound impeccable but get tripped up by the unusually high level on colloquialism, regionalism, language shift and inbuilt metaphor/imagery that we take for granted (at least till an Aussie is talking to an American or Brit or...)

Lunalovesskating · Dec 21, 2018

I think they will send Tomoe and Yuhana to Junior Worlds. They are currently in second and first place. They both deserve it. Tomeo was so wonderful

satine · Dec 21, 2018

Lunalovesskating said:
I do not have the Golden Skate subscription that is why I cannot see this part of the forum

http://live.qq.com/10097977 Sorry, here you go! Well into Group 3 now!

Lunalovesskating · Dec 21, 2018

satine said:
http://live.qq.com/10097977 Sorry, here you go! Well into Group 3 now!

Thank you

but I already found a stream an hour ago XD a few posts up I posted the link to the stream I use.

yume · Dec 21, 2018

Lunalovesskating said:
I think they will send Tomoe and Yuhana to Junior Worlds. They are currently in second and first place. They both deserve it. Tomeo was so wonderful

Yuhana already has her spot. Tomoe, Nana, Yuna and Wakana are fighting for the 2 other spots.

Lunalovesskating · Dec 21, 2018

yume said:
Yuhana already has her spot. Tomoe, Nana, Yuna and Wakana are fighting for the 2 other spots.

Ak ok I did not know that. I hope Tomeo gets the second spot.

jenm · Dec 21, 2018

Does anyone have a different livestream link? This one http://live.qq.com/10097977 doesn't work for me

BrentWolgamott · Dec 21, 2018

Satoko was SO GORGEOUS!!!!!! I just love her short program. AND HER DRESS is like magic.

lanceupper1114 · Dec 21, 2018

Yuhana was my dark horse in the prediction thread to finish in the top 5 since she has less pressure here knowing she can go to Jr Worlds; she has nail her SP, which she did. She's going to skate in the final group in the FS so she just might sneak into the top 5! She's a good long program skater. I also predicted Satoko will win the Championship again; we'll see how that pans out, but she's on her way since she atop the leaderboard again! Wakaba did well, which makes me happy!

zanadude · Dec 21, 2018

So happy for Miyu Nakashio. This is her final season, and she was quite emotional about making to Nationals after a shaky skate at the West Japan qualifier. A clean skate, and did just enough to progress to the free. Her heart will go on!

On the other hand, very sad to see Yuka Nagai not advance. Such a beautiful skater, but her jumping legs just couldn't keep up with her growth spurt.

Rika Kihira in fifth. Right where she wants to be! :laugh:

Seriously...she is a very high risk, high reward skater. She is still my pick to win, but bombing in the free is not out of the question. I'm pretty sure they would choose her for Worlds with even a fifth place finish...but eighth or ninth?

Sure hope Mai can nail her Mission program and make things very difficult for the selection committee.

Some skaters sure had fun watching their "jump stats", none more so than Kaori, who had every reason to be in a good mood.

Marin... :palmf:

Ophelia · Dec 21, 2018

Now who were those posters who were predicting that Miyahara was done after GPF?

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