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    Prechat New Season, New Rules, & Judging: Singles and Pairs

    The ISU Releases its new Constitution and General Regulations and the Special Regulations and Technical Rules 2018 for each Discipline.

    The role of the International Skating Union (ISU) is to regulate, govern and promote its sport. All these, with one goal, to keep developing the disciplines of Speed Skating, Short Track Speed Skating, Figure Skating and Synchronized Skating. It is essential for the sport and its rules and regulations to evolve side by side in order to grow.

    Following the International Skating Union’s 57th Ordinary Congress on June 8, 2018 in Sevilla (ESP), the new ISU Constitution and General Regulations and the Special Regulations and Technical Rules for each discipline were voted on and have now been published and are all available on the ISU.ORG. They are valid for the seasons 2018/19 and 2019/20. New proposals will be presented and voted on during the next ISU Congress in June 2020.

    Figure Skating Special Regulations & Technical Rules
    Synchronized Skating Special Regulations & Technical Rules
    Speed Skating Special Regulations & Technical Rules
    Short Track Speed Skating Special Regulations & Technical Rules

    Some of the most important decisions of the Congress from the Agenda ISU Communication 2156 and Urgent Matters ISU Communication 2160 are summarized here. All information regarding the 57th ISU Congress 2018 is available on https://www.isu.org/isu-congresses.

    For more details regarding the special regulations and technical rules, please visit: https://isu.org/isu-statutes-constitution-regulations-technical
    Feel free to use this thread to discuss your thoughts on the judging this season as well as:

    • Scale of Values
    • Levels of Difficulty of Single/Pair Skating Elements
    • Marking +GOE of Single/Pair Skating Elements (positive aspects)
    • Establishing GOE for errors in Short Program and Free Skating

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    Who wants the 30 seconds in the free skate back?

    Just me?

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    To be honest, I don't think any fan wanted them gone in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caustica View Post
    To be honest, I don't think any fan wanted them gone in the first place.
    I'm all for having the programmes in all categories the same length. But, instead of reducing the Men and the Pairs, they should have increased the Ladies and the Ice Dance.

    The problem is that the TV companies want things shortened because they believe that people nowadays have shorter attention spans and will turn over if something is too long.

    Balderdash!

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    Watching Lombardia toady and the men event is so exhausting. Aliev and Shoma look like they were sucked out of energy in the second half. Now with only one less jump, they lost 30s to rest and adjust.

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    Pray for all the quadsters

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    I was so puzzled when I read the title, thinking why would we want the 1930-s back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anni234 View Post
    I was so puzzled when I read the title, thinking why would we want the 1930-s back
    LOL same here!

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    It will be fine. The judges are already making up the saved time by taking extra time to put up the marks with the new rules.

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    The skaters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anni234 View Post
    I was so puzzled when I read the title, thinking why would we want the 1930-s back
    Sorry, did my best with the length of the title 🤷🏻*♀️

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    ^ Yup, seconded.
    Why do people have issues with the programs being 30 seconds shorter? I haven't noticed any difference. If it's less exhausting for skaters this way, I'm all for it.

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    I heard it's actually more exhausting , for both men and pairs because it means you have to fit in all the elements in a shorter time. It's kind of akin to trying run an 3k compared to a 5k. Yes the 3k is shorter, but you have less room for error and basically have to be at a faster race pace the whole time.
    Last edited by Mrs. P; 09-15-2018 at 11:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surimi View Post
    If it's less exhausting for skaters this way, I'm all for it.
    It is not less exhausting, it is more exhausting.
    The worst is going to be for a program that has both quads and actual content. As Hanyu said, the 30sec makes the program more busy and tougher to skate. You lose one triple and that's 10 seconds but what about the 20 sec left.
    At Lombardia we could see it already, Shoma's program is still a WIP and he was out of it. Not sure I have ever seen him that way before. Not just him either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatagarasu View Post
    It is not less exhausting, it is more exhausting.
    The worst is going to be for a program that has both quads and actual content. As Hanyu said, the 30sec makes the program more busy and tougher to skate. You lose one triple and that's 10 seconds but what about the 20 sec left.
    At Lombardia we could see it already, Shoma's program is still a WIP and he was out of it. Not sure I have ever seen him that way before. Not just him either.
    And it was worse for the guys at SLC because of the elevation. But basically everyone looked gassed after the first 2/3s.

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    Has it been finalized that they are increasing the number of pairs that qualify for Worlds and Euros? That's the only potentially good thing to have come out of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. P View Post
    And it was worse for the guys at SLC because of the elevation. But basically everyone looked gassed after the first 2/3s.
    Yeah, true.

    And I agree about the pacing. It's really going to be difficult if one makes an error then, as catching up is going to be a nightmare.

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    Yuzuru Hanyu said it’s much harder to do without the 30 seconds.

    We can already see the effects of it now, it will probably be even more apparent once we hit the GP circuit.

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    Me, they all look dead by the end of the FS :\

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caustica View Post
    To be honest, I don't think any fan wanted them gone in the first place.
    This. But no one asked us. FS is not a democracy.

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