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Not a choreographic sliding movement element per se, but I do love Weaver/Poje's synchronized slide to exit out of their choreographic character step sequence, right on the accent of the music: https://youtu.be/76mIs0L3UO4?t=236
Your favorite "choreographic slide" in Free Dance?
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As much as I like the slides, I can’t help but notice how many ladies have large bandaids or tape on their knees or bleeding knees when they come off the ice. I know this type of move is very hard on the skin and knee bones and take a huge amount of time to heal. Beautiful to watch but Not sure these athletes need more Mandatory pounding on their bodies.
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The sliding movement is murder on the ladies knees. Especially if you are last couple in group to skate, there are so many ruts and so on in the ice at that point.
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This is true. I did a lot of contemporary dance and there are quite a few dancers who can't handle knee work on a wooden floor. Took me a long time.
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Fear/Gibson choreo sliding movement is also the highest scored sliding movement (with 5.01 points) :agree:
Papadakis/Cizeron has the highest scored choreo lift (5.25) and choreo steps (5.13). Stepanova/Bukin has the highest scored choreo twizzling movement (5.00).
Papadakis/Cizeron has the highest scored choreo lift (5.25) and choreo steps (5.13). Stepanova/Bukin has the highest scored choreo twizzling movement (5.00).
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Ouch! That sounds awful. And it must destroy your tights, too.
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Suddenly Marie-Jade Lauriault's choice of costume makes a lot of sense...
Yes, Fear and Gibson have the best choreo slide of the year, but they also have the slide in the best place in the routine out of all the couples, coming as it does in the dying seconds of the programme, therefore leaving the audience with the greatest dramatic effect.
That free dance is beautifully thought out choreographically.
That free dance is beautifully thought out choreographically.
Maybe I am misunderstanding what a slide actually is?........ I remember Paul Wylie performing "miss Saigon" and he ended with a long slide on the ice on his knees
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No, we're not talking about gimmicky slides for shows. The Choreographic Sliding Sequence is a new element this season that Ice Dancers can include in their free dance. (IIRC they have to include three Choreographic elements - the others are Twizzle, Spin, Character Step Sequence, and Dance Lift, IIRC. They choose from those).
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As was mentioned in the OP. Here are definitions of all elements.
Definition of Choreographic Elements:
• Choreographic Lift: Dance Lift of minimum 3 seconds and up to ten (10) seconds, performed after all the other required Dance Lifts
• Choreographic Spinning Movement: spinning movement performed anywhere in the program, during which both partners perform at least 2 continuous rotations in any hold,The following requirements apply:
- on one foot or two feet or one partner being elevated for less than 2 rotations, or a combination of the three
- on a common axis which may be moving.
- for both parts: on one foot or two feet or a combination of both,
- for the first part: at least 2 continuous rotations performed simultaneously and both partners must travel (cannot be on the spot)
- for the second part: at least one of the partners has to perform at least 2 continuous rotations and one or both partners can be on the spot or traveling or a combination of both.
- Continuous controlled sliding movement by both partners at the same time on any part of the body
- May be in hold or not touching, may also rotate.
- Controlled sliding on 2 knees or any part of the body will not be considered as a Fall/Illegal Element by the Technical Panel during this element.
- Sliding Movement cannot finish as a stop on 2 knees or sitting/lying on the ice, otherwise it will be identified as a Fall/Illegal Element and shall be called accordingly.
- Performed anywhere in the program
- Must be placed around the Short Axis and proceed from barrier to barrier
- May be in hold or not touching
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It's funny because those elements have generally been very well received -- this thread is a good example, and I personally believe the character step sequence was a brilliant idea, my favorite moment in so many FDs -- but they are also the most glaring example of the power of GOEs over levels in scoring that people are complaining about this season. You can rack up an insane amount of points on these crowd-pleasing elements that essentially only have to look good. It'll be interesting to see how they fine tune this system over the years. Maybe three choreo elements is too many?
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For me, 3 is fine, but I wish that with the new GOE system they would adjust the difference between levels again so that they matter a bit more on other elements. That would balance it out for me.
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That's the point. To make figure skating a more of a crowd pleasing sport. Not the one where only the 'teached' one will discuss about the 'levels' which are significant only in the 'judges eyes'
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That's the point. To make figure skating a more of a crowd pleasing sport. Not the one where only the 'teached' one will discuss about the 'levels' which are significant only in the 'judges eyes'
I think people do have a basis for saying that the new BV differences between levels are too small. As an example, the difference between a level 1 and level 4 step sequence is only 1.5 points but there is a huge difference in the amount of intricacy, variety of turns and holds, and perfection in execution needed to achieve level 4, namely:
Source (page 16):
In contrast, the difference between earning 0 and +2 GOE on a choreo element is 1.66 points. Why spend all that effort on a upping the difficulty and perfecting the execution of steps/turns when one can just make up the points through positive features on the choreo elements and then some
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