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    The destiny of skaters who have retired

    Hello everyone,
    what do you think - the destiny of which skater who has already retired is the most interesting??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosallie View Post
    Hello everyone,
    what do you think - the destiny of which skater who has already retired is the most interesting??
    Umm, by interesting, do you mean in a good, satisfying to their fans way (eg Brian Orser) or interesting as in dramatic (even if in a bad/nemesis way)? Let's be clear, I'm as addicted to drama as the next person, but a thread that threatens to turn into Greek tragedy would not be my thing....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TallyT View Post
    Umm, by interesting, do you mean in a good, satisfying to their fans way (eg Brian Orser) or interesting as in dramatic (even if in a bad/nemesis way)? Let's be clear, I'm as addicted to drama as the next person, but a thread that threatens to turn into Greek tragedy would not be my thing....
    I mean what's the most unexpected destiny of a skater, in a both (good and bad) way.

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    That's really a question without an obvious answer. Depends on the skater.

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    Tenley Albright has had a full and interesting life.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenley_Albright

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    Brian Boitano is very interesting to me. He does something interesting with food and cooking, in several different directions/venues. He also renovated the Boitano home/ manor house (?) in Italy and some show (maybe HGTV?) documented it.

    And I read recently that two or three mornings a week, he skates compulsory figures for an hour. Great for fitness because of all the micro-muscular movements.

    But I just remembered: my favorite example of retired skater's Destiny is probably Kristi Yamaguchi. She created the Always Dream Foundation to support children and literacy way back in 1996, has diversified into writing books, making a video with California Raisins, and broadcast skating analysis. She has had great advantages because the timing of her career allowed her to headline SOI during all of the absolutely golden years. But .... or I should say And .... she's done so much with the opportunities she had. All this, and a marriage and two children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    Tenley Albright has had a full and interesting life.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenley_Albright
    She has always been one of my favorites... but just from reading and studying the history of the sport. There is so little footage available of skaters of that era, and that is a shame. I don't think I've even seen Dick Button's Olympic programs (full programs, not just snippets).

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    Tonya. Harding.

    Did anyone expect that she would be walking down a red carpet with Margo Robbie one day?

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    Otto Jelinek is a former world champion pairs skater that went on to serve in the Canadian Parliment for over 20 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosallie View Post
    Hello everyone,
    what do you think - the destiny of which skater who has already retired is the most interesting??
    As you are from Czechia, I say Alena Vrzáňová (1931-2015). The 1949 & 1950 World champion and later a star of the Ice Capades. In 2009 she received The Emil Zátopek Award (Sport Legend of the Czech Republic).
    Here is she with Johnny Weir.

    BTW: Otto Jelinek was born in Czechia too.

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    Marie-France Dubriel and Patrice Lauzon. They were great ice dancers with a wonderful style on the ice. But who would have guessed that when they turned to coaching/choreography that they'd quickly become to the go-to ice dancing center in the world? Amazing!

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    Petri Kokko is a sales director at Google in Germany. That might be interesting.

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    Nicole Bobek- as far as I recall, she was working in a gift shop owned with her mother, spent a little time in jail after being involved with a meth ring, worked at a local skating rink even handling concessions, then joined an acrobatic circus in Europe after getting married.

    Gorsha Sur went to law school at Hastings (same law school as Alysa Liu's dad) and last I heard, he was an immigration attorney with his own practice in California.

    Brian Boitano did a bunch of cooking-related shows and things.

    Katia Gordeeva's done a ton of different things-- writing books, having her own fragrance, trying to start a skating academy, coaching her daughter.

    Kristi Yamaguchi's stayed busy with charities and non-profits and was still hosting skating shows recently.

    Michelle Kwan got her master's degree, worked for the fed gov't, and did a bunch of political work, including campaigning for Hilary Clinton.

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    In a sad way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by livetoskate View Post
    Nicole Bobek- as far as I recall, she was working in a gift shop owned with her mother, spent a little time in jail after being involved with a meth ring, worked at a local skating rink even handling concessions, then joined an acrobatic circus in Europe after getting married.

    Gorsha Sur went to law school at Hastings (same law school as Alysa Liu's dad) and last I heard, he was an immigration attorney with his own practice in California.

    Brian Boitano did a bunch of cooking-related shows and things.

    Katia Gordeeva's done a ton of different things-- writing books, having her own fragrance, trying to start a skating academy, coaching her daughter.

    Kristi Yamaguchi's stayed busy with charities and non-profits and was still hosting skating shows recently.

    Michelle Kwan got her master's degree, worked for the fed gov't, and did a bunch of political work, including campaigning for Hilary Clinton.
    Hmm I might include Liz Manley's battle with depression, going broke, marrying a C level hockey player, coaching and such; Kira Ivanova ending up an alcoholic and murdered - drunk, naked and hair hacked off and stabbed many times - so so sad. Debi Thomas olympic medallists, doctor and then her battle with mental health and going broke. Morzov and his coaching and love life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skater Boy View Post
    Hmm I might include Liz Manley's battle with depression, going broke, marrying a C level hockey player, coaching and such; Kira Ivanova ending up an alcoholic and murdered - drunk, naked and hair hacked off and stabbed many times - so so sad. Debi Thomas Olympic medalists, doctor and then her battle with mental health and going broke. Morozov and his coaching and love life?
    Yes, destiny works both ways. In Liz Manley's case, hasn't she put her dark days behind her @ this point? I hope so, for her sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    Tenley Albright has had a full and interesting life.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenley_Albright
    I didn't know that Tenley took up skating as therapy to regain muscle strength after suffering an attack of polio at age 11. Ten years later ... first US lady to be Olympic champion!

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    So, I went down a rabbit hole, and I found a twist on this thread.

    Frank Carroll's figure skating career was interesting. He got interested because FS combines athletic and artistic endeavors. His highest competitive result was Silver Medal, Junior Level at U.S. Championships. He was 21 or 22 at the time, and he retired to go professional and skate with Ice Follies. In his TSL interview, he said that his coach, Maribel Vinson Owen, (who he lived with on week-ends) was really angry with him for retiring, but they stayed friends.

    He also said in that interview that in college, he could never participate fully in the life because he was always off at a skating event. He skated with Ice Follies for four years and was at some point accepted to law school, but he chose to pursue acting. (all per Wiki) He was in a few beach movies !! Who knew? I wonder if it was with Elvis or Annette Funicello?

    He started coaching figure skating part-time to support himself, and it grew to full-time. Eventually, the word "Legendary" became like part of his name in figure skating commentary.

    He almost couldn't go on in the skating world after the tragic 1963 plane crash killed so many of his closest friends. He had to finish out his contract with the follies. A second time he "thought he was finished with figure skating" was when Linda Fratianne won Olympic silver instead of the gold in 1980. But then, as he said in the TSL interview, a new student reached out to him, and he got interested again ....

    It was a Long. And. Winding. Road. to the Legendary Coach, Frank Carroll. Or, you could say, full of Fits. And. Starts.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_...figure_skater)
    TSL interview Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG13j8A8siI
    TSL interview Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLbVc4icE2s

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