2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

nussnacker · Jun 11, 2019

Happy Skates said:
No don't worry, she (and Kromykh) are listed on the novice team, and it just mean they don't have as much funding as the junior team. But believe it or not, Shcherbakova was in the same position one year ago. And also, there's only like 6 girls listed on the junior team, and they invite a lot more than that to test skates. Usacheva will definitely be invited to test skates.

Shcherbakova didn't make the junior national team for a different reason though... She was injured and took almost a whole year off, they couldn't let her on the junior team, when she almost missed the whole season.

Usacheva and Khromykh, I thought they had quite a good season, so I was surprised they didn't make the cut in terms of funding.
But I agree that they still have a high chance for jgp assignments nevertheless.

moriel · Jun 11, 2019

SkySkater said:
Ehh last year both Samodurova and Panenkova were both of the main junior team if I recall correctly and they both got assignments though Samodurova was only assigned one to originally. Does anyone have the team lost from last year because if I remember correctly Serafima and Alena Leonova were on that team and neither of them got assignments initially though I could be completely wrong about that though. Regardless I don’t think that is an absolute guarantee that Tarusina won’t get a senior Grand Prix—isn’t she above Gubanova in the ranking.

No guarantee, but overall looks likely.

This year is actually tricky, because we never had something like this before. I mean, we have 6 skaters who could medal at any worlds in the senior team.

LiamForeman · Jun 11, 2019

I am relieved and happy for Gubanova! I was nervous she'd be ignored, but she was smart to go to Buianova. Now it's up to her to make a name for herself.

Vandevska · Jun 11, 2019

GS Staff, may I ask what's with the random deleting of posts? :scratch2:

Payako · Jun 11, 2019

Yayyyy looks like Gubanova is likely to get GP spots.I'm glad Buyanova is working now

I hope she works at nationals again and send Nastya to Euros and Worlds.Show Tutberidze what you have

Show the true power of CSKA!

Scott512 · Jun 11, 2019

LiamForeman said:
I am relieved and happy for Gubanova! I was nervous she'd be ignored, but she was smart to go to Buianova. Now it's up to her to make a name for herself.

That about sums it up. Happy for Nastya. But nervous too.

Scott512 · Jun 11, 2019

Payako said:
Yayyyy looks like Gubanova is likely to get GP spots.I'm glad Buyanova is working nowI hope she works at nationals again and send Nastya to Euros and Worlds.Show Tutberidze what you haveShow the true power of CSKA!

But does Buyanova have coaches that can teach Nastya triple axle and quad? Her legs are stronger than 3As legs so shouldn't that make learning these toughest jumps easier for her? Or is having more muscle and weight a hindrance for a triple axel or quad?

Who is Buyanovas #2 lady now?

Eteris girls are setting the bar so high. It will be interesting to see if any of the other Russinas can catch them at some point or will they have to wait for Eteri girls to fall back and to fall in competitions to beat them? Hmmm. At this point it seem they would have to wait for eteri girls to fail for other Russians outside their group to catch them or beat them in competition.

It's going to be exciting it's going to be thrilling it's going to be emotional next season just in Russia alone with the ladies. Get your popcorn ready!

LiamForeman · Jun 11, 2019

Sadly, I can't see her learning 3a or a quad. Her jump technique is kind of wonky. But I would love to be surprised! At least this season, I want her to go out on the SGP, land everything (3Lz-3Lp, 3F-3T) and be happy with that. Her SS and other PCS will finally be recognized (no offense to Samodurova, but Gubanova is way ahead in terms of PCS and really in TES). She can stand out.

Vandevska · Jun 11, 2019

LiamForeman said:
Sadly, I can't see her learning 3a or a quad. Her jump technique is kind of wonky. But I would love to be surprised! At least this season, I want her to go out on the SGP, land everything (3Lz-3Lp, 3F-3T) and be happy with that. Her SS and other PCS will finally be recognized (no offense to Samodurova, but Gubanova is way ahead in terms of PCS and really in TES). She can stand out.

Yeah I agree that Gubanova is better, I like her jumps better than Samodurova's too.

Scott512 · Jun 11, 2019

LiamForeman said:
Sadly, I can't see her learning 3a or a quad. Her jump technique is kind of wonky. But I would love to be surprised! At least this season, I want her to go out on the SGP, land everything (3Lz-3Lp, 3F-3T) and be happy with that. Her SS and other PCS will finally be recognized (no offense to Samodurova, but Gubanova is way ahead in terms of PCS and really in TES). She can stand out.

I pretty much agree. I hope Nastya can surprise us. But let's be honest a year from now it will be hard for a Russian girl to medal in a big competition if she doesn't at least have a triple axel. We shall see.

TripleAxelQueens3 · Jun 11, 2019

Strange that Khromykh and Usacheva didn’t get into junior reserves but Frolova did. After all, Khromykh and Usacheva were first and second at RCF and Frolova was third.

LiamForeman · Jun 11, 2019

I just watched two videos of Frolova, and without even knowing who her coach is, I could tell she is a Panova student!! Same entrances to lutz and flip like Kanysheva. She lands her jumps, for sure, but... I'm glad Kanysheva switched to Eteri.

Vilord · Jun 11, 2019

TripleAxelQueens3 said:
Strange that Khromykh and Usacheva didn’t get into junior reserves but Frolova did. After all, Khromykh and Usacheva were first and second at RCF and Frolova was third.

If I remember correctly from last year someone said it was better money to be on novice main team than junior reserve. For example Tarakanova and Sherbakova also was on the novice team last year (and Tarakanova also two years ago I think). From what Ive seen over the past year they are verry likely to get at least one JGP, or at the verry least be invited to test skates (if they are of junior age that is)

IndiaP12 · Jun 11, 2019

I wonder why Valieva is on the junior team and Usacheva & Khromykh on the novice team. Maybe because she has a 4T+3T and is novice champion? But Khromykh is Jr Cup of Russia final champ and no doubt her and usacheva are both working on quads

Happy Skates · Jun 11, 2019

IndiaP12 said:
I wonder why Valieva is on the junior team and Usacheva & Khromykh on the novice team. Maybe because she has a 4T+3T and is novice champion? But Khromykh is Jr Cup of Russia final champ and no doubt her and usacheva are both working on quads

I think part of it is just how big of a reputation Valieva is getting as a rising star. She's the only one her age to be on the junior team, so I'm guessing its rare to be on the junior team without having competed internationally. I know that popularity and reputation are probably not technically supposed to be criteria, but I guess RusFed thinks its good to support "stars", and there is just so much hype around Kamila.

Bluediamonds09 · Jun 11, 2019

Are Shabotova and Safonova on the novice team?

SkateSkates · Jun 11, 2019

Happy Skates said:
I think part of it is just how big of a reputation Valieva is getting as a rising star. She's the only one her age to be on the junior team, so I'm guessing its rare to be on the junior team without having competed internationally. I know that popularity and reputation are probably not technically supposed to be criteria, but I guess RusFed thinks its good to support "stars", and there is just so much hype around Kamila.

Kamila not only won novice nationals, but also 2nd Junior Nationals, older age Moscow champs, Moscow cup and Moscow open last season. Unfortunately she missed Jr Nats and Cup Final due to injury, but she won every competition she entered last season except Cup of Russia stage 2 (3rd) and younger age Moscow champs (2nd, her first comp coming back from injury). I don’t think the government funding is based off quad practice videos.

Spirals for Miles · Jun 11, 2019

Bluediamonds09 said:
Are Shabotova and Safonova on the novice team?

No, they're not on the team at all.

IndiaP12 · Jun 11, 2019

Happy Skates said:
I think part of it is just how big of a reputation Valieva is getting as a rising star. She's the only one her age to be on the junior team, so I'm guessing its rare to be on the junior team without having competed internationally. I know that popularity and reputation are probably not technically supposed to be criteria, but I guess RusFed thinks its good to support "stars", and there is just so much hype around Kamila.

I hope they don’t hype her up too much. I hope the pressure doesn’t get to her :/

LiamForeman · Jun 11, 2019

IndiaP12 said:
I wonder why Valieva is on the junior team and Usacheva & Khromykh on the novice team. Maybe because she has a 4T+3T and is novice champion? But Khromykh is Jr Cup of Russia final champ and no doubt her and usacheva are both working on quads

Barring injury, I already call the Olympic Gold Medal to Valieva. She's strongest on the second mark, yet is probably on the first mark too.

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