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    The best moment in the video with Egor

    He wants steps! - Daniil ironically emphasizes the "steps". Like, look at him - our kid wants to get into the big league

    That's right, Egorochka! It is right! - Eteri with a smile of a proud mother supporting her beloved son. Just listen to it - "Egorochka" [sweet Egor, or sweet little Egor], and who calls Eteri the ice queen?

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    Maya, Kamila, Daria together:
    https://www.instagram.com/p/B06BBBRJocq

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    Quote Originally Posted by flanker View Post
    Maya, Kamila, Daria together:
    https://www.instagram.com/p/B06BBBRJocq
    Look how tall Maya is :-)

    Having a team of same age friends around you is one of the benefits of being part of a large group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwin View Post
    Look how tall Maya is :-)

    Having a team of same age friends around you is one of the benefits of being part of a large group.
    And it's a part of Tutberidze effect, same age skaters trying what friends can do. Healthy competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flanker View Post
    And it's a part of Tutberidze effect, same age skaters trying what friends can do. Healthy competition.
    From the Goncharenko interview:

    "Eteri managed to find such a working order, where children come to the ice every day and fight. They fight for the elements, for her attention, fight with themselves and with each other. Therefore, her athletes are so steadfast and stable in competitions."

    They may fight with each other, but they are also comrades. Not necessarily friends, but they share the same passion and pride and won't let anybody that take away from them. United they stand tall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwin View Post
    From the Goncharenko interview:

    "Eteri managed to find such a working order, where children come to the ice every day and fight. They fight for the elements, for her attention, fight with themselves and with each other. Therefore, her athletes are so steadfast and stable in competitions."

    They may fight with each other, but they are also comrades. Not necessarily friends, but they share the same passion and pride and won't let anybody that take away from them. United they stand tall.
    I am interested to see how sustainable it is for these young women to maintain their friendships/working relationships with each other at the senior level. I think it must be very difficult to see your competitors every day if you yourself are struggling. Eteri will have four senior Russian ladies this year. What will the #4 girl do? How will she handle being #4? Or maybe the competition will be close enough that there is no #4? Last season we saw Trusova/Kostornaia/Shcherbakova all trade places on the podium, with no clear #1. But what if one of them begins to fall behind, or maybe Alina does? I think maintaining a friendly atmosphere will be tough. Of course Eteri can manage it through a lot of discipline, and the girls all know how to behave themselves, but it's difficult to imagine that it won't breed a lot of resentment, jealousy, stress, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andromache View Post
    I am interested to see how sustainable it is for these young women to maintain their friendships/working relationships with each other at the senior level. I think it must be very difficult to see your competitors every day if you yourself are struggling. Eteri will have four senior Russian ladies this year. What will the #4 girl do? How will she handle being #4? Or maybe the competition will be close enough that there is no #4? Last season we saw Trusova/Kostornaia/Shcherbakova all trade places on the podium, with no clear #1. But what if one of them begins to fall behind, or maybe Alina does? I think maintaining a friendly atmosphere will be tough. Of course Eteri can manage it through a lot of discipline, and the girls all know how to behave themselves, but it's difficult to imagine that it won't breed a lot of resentment, jealousy, stress, etc.
    It all depends how the girls grow into their characters and personalities as adolescents and young adults. Nothing if for certain, but I don't think there will be a powerplay sort of plan by setting the skaters up against each other. That won't work over long time when you meet each other daily. Figure skating is a highly individual sport, each skater has her own strengths and weaknesses. The skaters all work for themselves in the first place, #TeamTutberidzeForProgress will see to that. Individual, but not isolated because you can be certain everybody keeps a keen eye open, spying on how the others are doing. When they grow older, they learn to accept the differences I hope.

    This new season it is all open and everybody gets an equal start of sorts. But I can still remember Kostornaya saying she wished she were born on the other side of the age line, so she could have one year in the seniors alone, without competition of Trusova or Shcherbakova.

    Anyway, we'll see at Test Skates how things stand. Perhaps Perviy Kanal will tease us with some clips from training/preparations before the event starts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwin View Post
    It all depends how the girls grow into their characters and personalities as adolescents and young adults. Nothing if for certain, but I don't think there will be a powerplay sort of plan by setting the skaters up against each other. That won't work over long time when you meet each other daily. Figure skating is a highly individual sport, each skater has her own strengths and weaknesses. The skaters all work for themselves in the first place, #TeamTutberidzeForProgress will see to that. Individual, but not isolated because you can be certain everybody keeps a keen eye open, spying on how the others are doing. When they grow older, they learn to accept the differences I hope.

    This new season it is all open and everybody gets an equal start of sorts. But I can still remember Kostornaya saying she wished she were born on the other side of the age line, so she could have one year in the seniors alone, without competition of Trusova or Shcherbakova.

    Anyway, we'll see at Test Skates how things stand. Perhaps Perviy Kanal will tease us with some clips from training/preparations before the event starts?
    I don’t think Alena named them specifically. In her interview at Jr Nationals I remember her saying she wants to compete at seniors but couldn’t do so this year due to her age. I can’t recall her saying she wanted a year in seniors without Trusova or Shcherbakova, but if you have this interview can you please link it?

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