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:agree: I don't think it needs a nickname either.
None of my posts in this thread have been in favor of a nickname. Quite the opposite.
Ladies and the triple Axel
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:agree: I don't think it needs a nickname either.
None of my posts in this thread have been in favor of a nickname. Quite the opposite.
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I think we should just call it by official name. Less confusion for everyone as this term is not really common outside Russia. For now most posts are about the use of term 'trixel', not about current ladies trying or landing this incredibly difficult jump.
And since we're here, I think the reason why English speakers never shorten the name is because it sounds very nice. Both words are of similar length and both end in 'L'. 'Trixel' somehow sounds even harsher.
And since we're here, I think the reason why English speakers never shorten the name is because it sounds very nice. Both words are of similar length and both end in 'L'. 'Trixel' somehow sounds even harsher.
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Because it's not proper and disrespects the sport. No one else calls it this, not even my former Russian coaches.
That is the point. IDC if one likes it or not, you say this around a figure skater, esp of elite status and they will laugh at you or roll their eyes and more than likely consider you don't know what you're talking about. It's just rude to call a jump some name that's non-existent. It pokes fun at all the sacrifices and work it takes to get to the level that many here like to talk about and claim to be fans of. Respect the sport or don't watch.
And IDK why the other side of this keeps saying "outrage" there is no outrage. It's just those of us that dislike seeing things wrongly stated. Nothing more, nothing less.
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no chill 
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Rika's 3A at ACI
https://twitter.com/courtneymilan/status/1171906480427143168?s=20
https://twitter.com/courtneymilan/status/1171906480427143168?s=20
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A-n-y-w-a-y I think we owe the thread starter (Edwin) the courtesy of a discussion of his topic.
If you compare the relative advantages of training a triple Axel versus a quad, one consideration is this. You must do an Axel jump in both the short and the long programs. If you can do a triple Axel, that fulfills the requirement while racking up big points.
If you have a quad but not a triple Axel, then you must do a double Axel, with a base value of only 3.3.
With a triple Axel you can sneak in an extra triple jump instead, making up for the difference in points between a triple Axel and a quad.
If you compare the relative advantages of training a triple Axel versus a quad, one consideration is this. You must do an Axel jump in both the short and the long programs. If you can do a triple Axel, that fulfills the requirement while racking up big points.
If you have a quad but not a triple Axel, then you must do a double Axel, with a base value of only 3.3.
With a triple Axel you can sneak in an extra triple jump instead, making up for the difference in points between a triple Axel and a quad.
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This makes me think about how a lot of the women who do/did the 3A weren't necessarily the best at executing reliable 3-3's, skaters such as Mao, Mirai, Tonya, etc. So, in theory, it's advantageous to be able to do the 3A and a 3-3 in the SP, but it's challenging for a lot of skaters to do both. Conversely, most of the women who do quads also have great 3-3 elements, so a lot of these women won't end up too far behind after the SP unless a talent like Rika nails everything, and then those with quads can more than make up the difference in the LP.
Tuktamysheva's 2015 Worlds was a good example, she had an eight point lead in the SP because of her 3A. Yes she won the LP too but that was arguably because Gold and Wagner (2nd and 3rd in the LP) skated in the penultimate group.
oh you were an elite figure skater? do you have any videos or anything of when you used to compete? what's the highest competitive level you attained? genuinely asking
okay :agree: that's cool i was also an elite top skater who went to worlds
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I'm going off topic again
, but your post got me wondering.FWIW, seems that:
Mabel Fairbanks had a Seminole Indian grandmother.
And Tai Babilonia is partly Hopi Indian.
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Does "Quacksel" sound too cutesy/sexist/quacky to anyone?
I literally use that “word” all the time when speaking about the elusive quad axel.
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Are we really arguing about names, when three ladies landed 3As today and yesterday?
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Indeed. Rika's 3A yesterday was one the most lovely axels I have ever seen in competition. The judges agreed and she received a total of 11.04 points for that one jump. (Which I think proves the value of the 3A )
Elizaveta and Young You (new member of the 3A club--although it is not official yet due to the negative GOE) also landed 3A. However, neither one was of the same quality as Rika's 3A. It is pretty awesome that we have at least 3 ladies going for the 3A in the short this season. (I suspect that Ayaka Hosada will also put it into her program if she is given the opportunity to compete abroad) Is anyone else going to put a 3A in her short program this year?
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We could officially say Young You as the 10th female skater to landed 3A. She did have negative GOE but it was fully rotated!
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If you are discussing ladies and their triple Axels, this is your thread.
If you want to discuss what to call various jumps, that conversation was moved to te following thread:
https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/s...mp-Why-triksel&p=2455356&posted=1#post2455356
If you want to discuss what to call various jumps, that conversation was moved to te following thread:
https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/s...mp-Why-triksel&p=2455356&posted=1#post2455356
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Now the linguistic and orthographic dissection and hair cleaving has been performed, isn't it time to list the successful competed triple Axels of the new season?
Who did them, how were they, could they be improved, better utilised in another part of the skater's routine, and interesting discussion topics like these.
Who did them, how were they, could they be improved, better utilised in another part of the skater's routine, and interesting discussion topics like these.
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