mzheng said:The PCS scores go to Michelle. Hands down.
mzheng said:The on site fans comments. One of them, on site viewer, posted on ISU board, the other posted at SkateFan both were not Ms Kwan fan or rather slightly Cohen fan. And some of others. The comments from the one on ISU said the SPEED in Michelle's foot work is no comparision.
Joesitz said:I firmly believe if someone is going to explain the CoP in its details, will be as biased as the judges. If you have a favorite you see bad elements as forgiving and if you see the adversary, you so not see the whole picture. This is not a bash. It is understandable and it works for whomever has a favorite. It's just not good reporting. The awarding of GOE plusses and minuses are as subjective in the technical as they are in the component scores, imo.
Joe
Mathman said:About spirals, I believe the reason that Irina gets a level 3 is because not only does she do a nice change of edge, but also because in the Bielmann position, with the hands over the head, it is harder to maintain your balance than with your arms out to the side (however beautifully positioned). So Irina can definitely match Sasha and Michelle on that element even without the Wow factor that Sasha and Michelle count on.
Mathman
elingrace4eva said:That's why I only showed the base values and the suggested GOE deductions for Sasha's fall and the hand down...I'm a Sasha fan, so I am very biased towards her. I did it strictly from a base value point of view, and as for the technical base values of the programs, Sasha's was higher.
MKbeauty said:However, Michelle's spiral sequence is definitely not a level one, it's a level 3. I also think her footwork is borderline level 3 - if she performs it full-out, I can see her getting high GOE's.
elingrace4eva said:The levels have nothing to do with how well the skater performs the move, it has to do with what the skater actually does in the move. Theoretically, you could fall on your footwork and still have a level three because of what you did in it. You simply would get 3 points taken off.
MKbeauty said:I think you misunderstood my post (or I was unclear). Michelle's footwork is borderline level 3 "plus" she should also received + grade of execution on top of the level 2/3. Her sequence is difficult and she performs it very well. Supposedly, she even performed it better/faster in practice.
I'm not sure what Sasha's GOE would be. The few times I saw her footwork sequence, it was executed sort of slow and cautiously. Maybe it has something to do with the music tempo, I'm not sure.