OK everyone, there has been a lot of noise out there, and now we have had a broadcast of the events. It is time to discuss.
I think Terry, Susie and Paul, as well as ESPN, did an excellent job of explaining the situations and how the marks came up. I followed along the competition with my laptop and looked at the judges marks for each element as each skater performed. I have a few comments.
1. There does not seem to be any scandal whatsoever in terms of the technical marks for jumps, spins, spiral/steps. Irina did poorly in the jumps, and she was placed 9th in jump points, which was fair. Susanna was rated second in jumps, also making sense because she missed her double axel and a second triple flip. Those yelling foul may just be counting jumps, or demanding that the second mark also come down due to jump mistakes in total, when really, the performance component mark should have been low for Slutskaya because she had trouble performing her jumps.
2. It seems that a skater is not penalized for jump misses outside the technical scores. The component scores seemed unaffected by mared jumps.
3. This CoP system is really no different than the old 6.0 system at all, mainly because, I think, that it uses the same judges who are used to ranking the skaters within whatever system they use, and they will manipulate it to get the results they want.
4. The Component Scores are the same as the old presentation marks, and are used and manipulated the same way as the old system.
There was no scandal here! Sadly, it was ISU business as usual. How sad that this happened in the first major ISU event to utilize the system.
I think we can all relax and expect figure skating and the judging to be the same as it has been for decades. There will be no lasting change if things continue as layed out currently.
I was bored actually, by seeing the same things as always.
That is what is going to kill figure skating as a great spectator sport on television and in the world spotlight. Due to predictable judging *b.s.* and the continued subjectivity making skating competitions like Worlds and Olympics more of a popularity and beauty contest (ice dance is a pagent), the general population is bored, bored, bored.
People don't watch boring things on tv. Figure skating is in real danger of being a total bore in terms of competitions where the skating doesn't really matter, but the judges shennanigans and biases and subjectivity rule. People who watch and believe a certain skater should be judged highly get discouraged quickly when the judges put out differing opinions. General population viewers feel the injustice, and won't bother to tune in only to be disgusted and puzzled by the results.
I believe that the general opinion out there amongst viewers who are not total skating avids is that the results are fixed, so they don't get into watching.
Anyway, I digress. I ddn't see any scandal here, only ISU business as usual.
I think Terry, Susie and Paul, as well as ESPN, did an excellent job of explaining the situations and how the marks came up. I followed along the competition with my laptop and looked at the judges marks for each element as each skater performed. I have a few comments.
1. There does not seem to be any scandal whatsoever in terms of the technical marks for jumps, spins, spiral/steps. Irina did poorly in the jumps, and she was placed 9th in jump points, which was fair. Susanna was rated second in jumps, also making sense because she missed her double axel and a second triple flip. Those yelling foul may just be counting jumps, or demanding that the second mark also come down due to jump mistakes in total, when really, the performance component mark should have been low for Slutskaya because she had trouble performing her jumps.
2. It seems that a skater is not penalized for jump misses outside the technical scores. The component scores seemed unaffected by mared jumps.
3. This CoP system is really no different than the old 6.0 system at all, mainly because, I think, that it uses the same judges who are used to ranking the skaters within whatever system they use, and they will manipulate it to get the results they want.
4. The Component Scores are the same as the old presentation marks, and are used and manipulated the same way as the old system.
There was no scandal here! Sadly, it was ISU business as usual. How sad that this happened in the first major ISU event to utilize the system.
I think we can all relax and expect figure skating and the judging to be the same as it has been for decades. There will be no lasting change if things continue as layed out currently.
I was bored actually, by seeing the same things as always.
That is what is going to kill figure skating as a great spectator sport on television and in the world spotlight. Due to predictable judging *b.s.* and the continued subjectivity making skating competitions like Worlds and Olympics more of a popularity and beauty contest (ice dance is a pagent), the general population is bored, bored, bored.
People don't watch boring things on tv. Figure skating is in real danger of being a total bore in terms of competitions where the skating doesn't really matter, but the judges shennanigans and biases and subjectivity rule. People who watch and believe a certain skater should be judged highly get discouraged quickly when the judges put out differing opinions. General population viewers feel the injustice, and won't bother to tune in only to be disgusted and puzzled by the results.
I believe that the general opinion out there amongst viewers who are not total skating avids is that the results are fixed, so they don't get into watching.
Anyway, I digress. I ddn't see any scandal here, only ISU business as usual.
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