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Thread: Alena Kostornaia leaving Eteri

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrashergurl View Post
    I believe there was talk of Anna being the favorite before either Sasha or Alena left. I’m certainly not the first to mention it on this forum. It does strike me as odd that she would get endorsements before Alena, however I’m not going to argue with any of her fans about it. I stated my opinion, which is what this forum is all
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    I am now hoping for a season so that we can see how these young girls all perform. Only time will tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corwin View Post
    I have a feeling that Yulia has grown up and wiser since the days of Sochi. And she's became calmer. Maybe she realized her behavior. And she behaved impertinently then.
    Yulia didn't behave "impertinently"... She was a child (I'm talking about age 12-15 here) who was put under horrendous mental pressure. Initially on family level; a few years later on national level when it was deemed her obligation to win gold at Sochi. As early as at the age of 12-13, the entire LIVELIHOOD of her family (i.e., Yulia & her mother) depended on HER. She was the breadwinner - her mother did NOT even work, until Eteri hired her as an "assistant coach" (read, a 24/7 nanny for Yulia, to supervise that she didn't eat in secret - despite the fact that everyone knew Yulia was already suffering from an eating disorder). Initially the family lived off some savings - they had sold their apartment in their hometown. Then, from the money Yulia earned on Junior Grand Prix circuit. Essentially, every time Yulia stepped on ice - she had this additional pressure "if I fall and break something = can't compete = don't earn money = WE ARE SCREWED !!". How are you going to survive ? You can't stay in Moscow because your mother doesn't work and can't support you financially. And you can't go back to your hometown because you have nowhere to return to - the apartment is already sold. I remember that once Yulia had a concussion and was forced to withdraw from some competition(s) which surely meant financial loss.
    Is this fair for a 13-y.o. ?!

    Secondly, Yulia was suffering from an eating disorder as early as 3 YEARS BEFORE the Olympics. It's rather common to have clinical depression alongside an eating disorder. Of course Eteri knew that ! Everyone knew that, even casual figure skating fans on the web. Did Yulia receive any kind of medical attention ? Of course NOT.
    (Off-topic: Remember how Medvedeva was prescribed "vitamins & minerals" in the middle of the Olympic season, AFTER she had already broken her foot ? Why wasn't that taken care of BEFORE she got injured ??)
    Instead, Yulia was publicly humiliated by her own coach, Eteri Tutberidze, a mere few weeks before the Olympics - when Eteri gave an interview for the official web page of Sochi Olympics where she said "Yulia can not be allowed to eat AT ALL, I feel very sorry for her". This was the TITLE of that article ! Eteri said that about a girl who - she knew very well - was suffering from an eating disorder ! She added in the article that "I have never in my life encountered a situation like this... [that a girl is too fat and can't lose weight]". The original article was published on the official Sochi Olympics page which is unavailable right now, but it has been re-published on countless other Russian media pages. I provide a link to one of them, as an example, that these articles are still online:
    https://www.kp.ru/daily/26189.5/3080113/
    Is this fair for a 15-y.o. right before the main competition of her life, in a sport where self-confidence is a major part of success - to be PUBLICLY HUMILIATED by her OWN COACH ??

    And, several years later, when Yulia was finally admitted to an eating disorder clinic - who paid for that...? Of course NOT Russian Figure Skating Federation. (The U.S. Figure Skating Federation DID pay for Gracie Gold.) Yulia paid out of her own pocket - from the money she received from her sponsor. And then, she was harassed by internet trolls that this sponsor of hers was her "sugar daddy" and she was actually paid for "other services", not because of her achievements in figure skating, because for some people only team gold is a failure, and they believed every word Eteri said - that Yulia was lazy, a spoiled brat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ali0125 View Post
    How about her edge? She barely had right edge for her lutz last season and you can argue many other ladies do the same. However, no one else like her putting like 5 lutz at once, not to mention she also has almost full blade from take off. That's why many people don't like her. It's okay that you don't have perfect techniques but having 5 is way more than reasonable. I couldn't image any decent person could ever do so.
    Not that person's decency has to do anything with skating/jumping technique (so it can hardly be a reason to make BS about her), though Anna's technique was put under scrutiny and apart from zealous haters (and their youtube channles) most of her lutzech can be declared satisfying.

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    I swear to God, the "lutz edge" topic wiggles its way into literally ANY discussion.

    I'm anxiously waiting to see some videos of Alena training and maybe hear about the new programs. I'm guessing that working with foreign specialists can be difficult though because of the travel restrictions.

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