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## Sports Streaks

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial...10/1054518.asp

Jerry Sullivan writes about sports streaks that will outlast Joe
Dimaggio's hitting streak in 1941...

"Michelle Kwan's eight straight U.S. figure skating titles. We're in
an era when 15-year-olds win and and skate directly to the Ice
Capades. Kwan's streak, still active, is one of the most underrated in
history."

It's always nice to see a regular sports writer give skating some
respect.

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Thanks for the article. I love it when longevity is praised in any sport. If I were to create a sports legend list, every single one of them would have proven themselves over time.

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What about Sonia Henie's streak of 10 straight world championships?

But DiMaggio's record is nothing to sneeze at. Let's say you are a .300 hitter. So at every at bat there is a 70% chance that you won't get a hit. If you have four at bats per game, your probability of not getting a hit is .70 x .70 x .70 x .70 = .24, so your probability of getting a hit in any particular game is 76%.

The probability of doing this 56 times in a row is .76 x .76 x .76 x . . . 56 times, which is equal to .0000002.

Mathman

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Originally Posted by Mathman
The probability of doing this 56 times in a row is .76 x .76 x .76 x . . . 56 times, which is equal to .0000002.
Did you forget your meds again????????

Dee

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I'd have to agree with you Mathman. THAT, is a streak that is very much overlooked. Don't forget, she also won 3 Olympic titles in a row. How many sports figures can actually say that they have done the same in their sport.

Kathie

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Originally Posted by Eldredgefan2001
I'd have to agree with you Mathman. THAT, is a streak that is very much overlooked. Don't forget, she also won 3 Olympic titles in a row. How many sports figures can actually say that they have done the same in their sport. Kathie
I doubt there are any. Sonia was unique, and no one can take credit for making the sport so popular as she did. Some fans like to dwell on the "youngest" fan to win an Oly as the most important statistic in figure skating. Big deal, and those same fans are not thinking about age as being so important now that their new favorite is over 20.

Joe

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Originally Posted by Mathman
What about Sonia Henie's streak of 10 straight world championships? ... Mathman ...
I don't think the size of the streak alone makes Kwan's streak so noteworthy. Sonia Henie's streak occurred when skaters had to do figures, but only had to do single jumps. This is easier on the body than the triple jumps expected of modern skaters. After all, how many skaters in Henie's era ended their careers prematurely due to injury? Kwan's streak is noteworthy, not merely because of its size, but also because of the physical challenge involved. The increasing physical demands of the sport means that the chances of a skater lasting long enough to equal it are getting smaller and smaller.

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Originally Posted by attyfan
I don't think the size of the streak alone makes Kwan's streak so noteworthy. Sonia Henie's streak occurred when skaters had to do figures, but only had to do single jumps. This is easier on the body than the triple jumps expected of modern skaters. After all, how many skaters in Henie's era ended their careers prematurely due to injury? Kwan's streak is noteworthy, not merely because of its size, but also because of the physical challenge involved. The increasing physical demands of the sport means that the chances of a skater lasting long enough to equal it are getting smaller and smaller.
Look - let's set aside the impressive physical challenges of today versus Henie's time for a moment. I'm not diminishing Sonia Henie's accomplishment, but let's be real.

FACT: She was allowed to wear short dresses because she was a "girl" and the other ladies had to wear floor length dresses - thereby giving Sonia a HUGE physical advantage in all elements of skating being done at the time. (spins, figures and single jumps)

FACT: In those days, the judging panels were often made up of mainly Norwegien judges. In some cases, 4 out of the 5 judges (at that time it was a 5 judge panel) were all from Norway.

Her streak is likely never to be broken, but even excluding the increased technical difficulties of modern skating, Henie's enjoyed advantages that are simply unheard of today (or even 30 years ago). So any ladies skater that comes close to her record is in a class by themselves IMHO.

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Originally Posted by Skate Sandee
FACT: In those days, the judging panels were often made up of mainly Norwegien judges. In some cases, 4 out of the 5 judges (at that time it was a 5 judge panel) were all from Norway.
Not unusual today. Is it?

BTW, can you site where you got the info on Sonia and these judges in all(?) her competitions?

Joe

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Originally Posted by Joesitz
I doubt there are any. Sonia was unique, and no one can take credit for making the sport so popular as she did. Some fans like to dwell on the "youngest" fan to win an Oly as the most important statistic in figure skating. Big deal, and those same fans are not thinking about age as being so important now that their new favorite is over 20.

Joe

Not only that Sonia did it when figures counted.

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Originally Posted by Joesitz
Not unusual today. Is it?

BTW, can you site where you got the info on Sonia and these judges in all(?) her competitions?

Joe
Um no. These days no country gets more than one judge on a panel.

And the judge info was mentioned during the A&E Biography.

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Originally Posted by Eldredgefan2001
THAT, [ten consecutive world titles] is a streak that is very much overlooked. Don't forget, she also won 3 Olympic titles in a row. How many sports figures can actually say that they have done the same in their sport.
Irina Rodnina. :-)

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I heart Irina!

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Originally Posted by Skate Sandee
Um no. These days no country gets more than one judge on a panel.

And the judge info was mentioned during the A&E Biography.
LoL of course it still happens today! Example...

Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, and...Lithuania get to send judges....that's four former Soviets...

Israel, a country that normally has judges from other countries judging for it (most notable, Katalin Alpern of Hungary now judging for Israel, or, even better, Baiul's former coach, Korytek's father, judging for Israel), sends one judge... (that's five)

And finally, Latvia, gets to send a judge...well, that's six...

Yikes!

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Originally Posted by thisthingcalledlove
LoL of course it still happens today! Example...

Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, and...Lithuania get to send judges....that's four former Soviets...

Israel, a country that normally has judges from other countries judging for it (most notable, Katalin Alpern of Hungary now judging for Israel, or, even better, Baiul's former coach, Korytek's father, judging for Israel), sends one judge... (that's five)

And finally, Latvia, gets to send a judge...well, that's six...

Yikes!
Not to mention Armenia, Azerbaiyan, Bulgaria, Georgia, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan.
It's the former Russians who went to these countries and remained. They brought figure skating to these states but they all are faithful to Mother Russia.
They are all entitled to have judges.

BTW, The Russian toe tapper fled to Israel and was reinstated as a legitimate judge. You figure.

Joe

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