2020 Skate America: General Info

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2020 Skate America
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Oct. 23-24, 2020
Las Vegas, Nevada​

The ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating Series consists of six international senior invitational events and culminates with the ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating Final. However, due to COVID-19, the Final has been postponed for this season and no World standing or ranking points will be awarded in the Grand Prix events.

Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, and in strict accordance with the Nevada Gaming Control Board guidelines, there will be no spectators in attendance at 2020 Skate America.
Schedules are attached (.pdf)

Note: In light of the pandemic, the usual selection criteria do not apply for the 2020-21 Grand Prix season. The competitors will be invited according to the following principles:
  • The top 6 Skaters/Teams from the ISU Grand Prix List are given priority to be selected for a Grand Prix event provided they reside/train in one of the Grand Prix Member countries, or have no travel restrictions to travel to a Grand Prix Member country in the nearby area.
  • The top 7-12 Skaters (for Ladies and Men), Top 7-10 Couples (for Pair Skating and Ice Dance) from the Grand Prix List are given second priority to be selected for a Grand Prix.
  • The top 24 Season's best and World Standings Skaters/Couples for season 2019/20 (not included in the above) will have third priority for selection.
  • The remaining entries will be from Skaters/Teams in the top 75 season's best list from 2019/20 and up to two Skaters/Teams from the Organizing Grand Prix Member (off list).
  • If there are no available Skaters/Teams left in the top 75, the Organizing Grand Prix Member may invite any other Skater training in the Organizing Grand Prix Member's country.
 
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Ah, I see, no spectators will be allowed. That's sad for Las Vegas and the economy, and for sporting fans. But it is what it is. Safety first.
 

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you probably mean free, not behind some kind of paywall?

Isnt't worldwide streaming a pre-requisite for ISU events?
 

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Is there any streaming option for this?
If you join the peacock streaming network-which I think has a free week. It's actually not a bad streaming service-at least for those of us that are older. Lots of old HItchcock movies, Masterpiece theater stuff etc. I find more to watch on this service than on Netflix. I think it is 4.99 a month? (after the free trial)
 

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Wait, where's the info that's it's on peacock?
It's in this thread ;)

 

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Does anybody know if the coloured Time Schedule been released yet? And, if so, where to find it.

I have been putting off posting all the Senior GP Predictions Game stuff until the schedule appeared on the ISU page for the event, as I wanted to include a definite start time for skating and, hence, calculate a deadline for making predictions. But, there are only 5 days to go until skating starts, and there is still no sign of it! :drama:

And I am now getting concerned, as the coloured Time Schedule is normally up there right from the start, long before the Provisional Entries Lists are populated. I thought that maybe the ISU were waiting until nearer the time to finalise the timetable, to see what restrictions might be in place. But, the Eurosport Player already has broadcast times for all segments.

It's not really fair on the players to put off opening predictions any longer. So, can anybody help?

CaroLiza_fan
 

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For one-stop shopping, the always handy-dandy Competition Central page now is available:


(It's too early for all the hyperlinks to be in place yet, but I am happy to be patient as the page is updated in coming days.

Apparently one of the links to come is for the "Virtual Fan Experience" that USFS has been promoting.)



Addition to the TV schedule (all times Eastern):

Sunday, Nov. 1Las Vegas Skating Spectacular12 – 1:30 p.m.NBC

It replaces what would have been the Skate Canada International broadcast.



I hope that everyone stays safe and healthy. :pray: 😷

And of course, good luck to all.



On a lighter note, Anthony Ponomarenko's tweet today made me smile 😄:

Literally forgot how to pack

🧳
 
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The color-coded schedule (including practices) is one of the links added today to the Competition Central page on USFS Fan Zone.

The links for Event Program and Virtual Fan Experience also were added to Competition Central.

(For the record, the color-coded schedule has not been added to the ISU event page -- at least not yet.

And lest anyone wonder: As always, the color-coded schedule first and foremost is intended for all the people who are involved on site [such as skaters; coaches; officials; staff; media; in-arena spectators (if it were a normal year); etc.], so it naturally uses local time.
A secondary benefit is that some who are not on site also like to have the information in this format.)



ETA (on Oct 20):

 
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The color-coded schedule (including practices) is one of the links added today to the Competition Central page on USFS Fan Zone.

The links for Event Program and Virtual Fan Experience also were added to Competition Central.

(For the record, the color-coded schedule has not been added to the ISU event page -- at least not yet.

And lest anyone wonder: As always, the color-coded schedule first and foremost is intended for all the people who are involved on site [such as skaters; coaches; officials; staff; media; in-arena spectators (if it were a normal year); etc.], so it naturally uses local time.
A secondary benefit is that some who are not on site also like to have the information in this format.)
Thanks! It would be nice of them to put up the minute by minute daily schedule but I doubt they will.
 

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Will it be possible to view this competition in the US using a VPN showing a foreign ISP? I'm leery of the Peacock Premium stream you can supposedly sign up for with a 'free' trial. If that's the only online way to view Skate America, I'll have to skip it and hope somebody puts up links later on YouTube, or some place else where they are free to view .
 

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no doubt there will be illegal re-streams, check soyouwanttowatchfs.com

NBC actively hunts down copyright infringement on Youtube, so don't expect any links or clips to last.
 

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no doubt there will be illegal re-streams, check soyouwanttowatchfs.com

NBC actively hunts down copyright infringement on Youtube, so don't expect any links or clips to last.
Thanks for the information--I'd forgotten about that soyouwanttowatchfs.com site. Oddly, I just can't remember how I've managed to watch nearly all the Grand Prix series in several years before. So much for 'getting older' and forgetting far too much useful info. And I don't have TV.
 

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yeah, TV has mostly become obsolete for watching 'lesser sports'
 

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Eurosport Player will be streaming this event, so you can pretty much be assured of streams-of-questionable-legality appearing on-line from that feed.

That said, I'm rather surprised the ISU haven't said anything yet about a stream of their own. It seems hard to believe Eurosport would actually *pay* for the rights to stream a series of GPs when they knew full well in advance there was a good chance some of the events would get cancelled due to covid-19.
 

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Eurosport Player will be streaming this event, so you can pretty much be assured of streams-of-questionable-legality appearing on-line from that feed.

That said, I'm rather surprised the ISU haven't said anything yet about a stream of their own. It seems hard to believe Eurosport would actually *pay* for the rights to stream a series of GPs when they knew full well in advance there was a good chance some of the events would get cancelled due to covid-19.
The strange thing is, I can vaguely recall being able to see these events before by using the VPN in my Opera browser...it may have been over illegitimate channels from the Eurosport feed, but I could swear at times there were YouTube channels showing the programs, just not visible in the US--hence the necessary VPN. Wish I'd have taken notes at the time!
 

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I could swear at times there were YouTube channels showing the programs, just not visible in the US
Hence my comment about being surprised the ISU hasn't said anything yet. The ISU had their own livestreams on youtube last season, which were available to watch for free and region-free except for locations where the rights had been sold (think US, Japan, among others, and yes, some browsers / VPNs can circumvent that). Eurosport did *not* have the rights last year. So many people are surprised they appear to somehow have regained those rights, at least for Skate America.
 

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Hence my comment about being surprised the ISU hasn't said anything yet. The ISU had their own livestreams on youtube last season, which were available to watch for free and region-free except for locations where the rights had been sold (think US, Japan, among others, and yes, some browsers / VPNs can circumvent that). Eurosport did *not* have the rights last year. So many people are surprised they appear to somehow have regained those rights, at least for Skate America.
Last year was great...
 

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The ISU had their own livestreams on youtube last season, which were available to watch for free and region-free except for locations where the rights had been sold (think US, Japan, among others, and yes, some browsers / VPNs can circumvent that).
Yes! Good to know I didn't just 'dream' I'd had the ability to watch those ISU livestreams last year via a VPN. I tell myself 'it's not that big a deal if I can't watch this year; doesn't look like much of a season anyhow'. However, I feel very bad for the skaters who are losing their opportunities for world championship points, medals, etc.
 

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Some pre-SkateAmerica video interviews are on Fan Zone.
The umbrella title is "Shaking the Rust Off" (and the interviewer is ... Rusty Kath).

Mariah and Bradie (10:00)

Timothy LeDuc, Danny O'Shea, and Brian Johnson (12:38)
(It's labelled as "Men," but "Pair Men" would have been more helpful.)
ETA (on Oct 22): Update: The label has been changed to "Pairs Men."​

Madison Hubbell, Kaitlin Hawayek, and Christina Carreira (14:31)​



Thanks! It would be nice of them to put up the minute by minute daily schedule but I doubt they will.

Do you mean the schedules with start times for each skater?
I will keep my fingers crossed.

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Thanks, Chris. :thank:
Your check is in the mail. :devil: ;)

I will miss comparing notes with you at the FOFS breakfast. :(
 
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Some pre-SkateAmerica video interviews are on Fan Zone.
The umbrella title is "Shaking the Rust Off" (and the interviewer is ... Rusty Kath).

(It's labelled as "Men," but "Pair Men" would have been more helpful.)​






Do you mean the schedules with start times for each skater?
I will keep my fingers crossed.



Thanks, Chris. :thank:
Your check is in the mail. :devil: ;)

I will miss comparing notes with you at the FOFS breakfast. :(
I miss you too, my friend....we shall meet again!
 

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Hopefully someone will sneakily put a stream on YouTube. Cause idk about buying Peacock just for Skate America.
You can always do a seven day free trial and cancel! Get your five bucks back....I know there is a way to rig the browser "Opera" so it looks like your computer isnt in the US....but I am not that smart....I was going to be an astrophysics whiz and then I hit the 3rd grade and things went south from there....
 

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Hopefully someone will sneakily put a stream on YouTube. Cause idk about buying Peacock just for Skate America.

Peacock is supposed to be streaming all figure skating events that are on tap this season, not just Skate America. This new season subscription set-up happened apparently partly due to the pandemic changing everything. Or else, they had plans to phase out NBCSportsGold for figure skating coverage all along. It's too soon to tell how the Peacock coverage will add up. We'll see how it goes. I'm not overly optimistic because even NBCGold did not provide all the event coverage we got on IceNetwork (aside from IN having crappy MLB technology and streaming glitches, which was greatly improved on NBCGold).

I wish there was more proactive thought processes going on in this sport altogether by those in charge, especially during these challenging times. I think the opportunity is ripe to re-think everything, including how competitions are developed and covered. The feds and the ISU should be actively brainstorming new solutions, instead of expecting that everything is going to 'return to normal' eventually. But sigh, it is the sport of figure skating led by antiquated thinkers for the most part with an overall Mom/Pop mentality and political infighting culture. The sport stays mired in status quo thinking, rather than being open to visionary leadership that prioritizes everyone working together for mutual good. The ISU should be sourcing fresh expertise and new ideas to benefit the skaters and fans, and to ensure the enduring growth of the sport.

ETA:
At least it's a good sign to see how hard U.S. fed worked to take the necessary precautions to still be able to hold Skate America in Las Vegas. But they also need to be thinking proactively and strategically for both the short-term and the long-term, with keeping in mind the possibility of things never going back to what we have been used to in how the sport is run. So, why not embrace this opportunity to look at everything and consider new ways of doing things that can benefit athletes and help push the sport forward!
 
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