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2021 Gran Premio d'Italia Entries

Baron Vladimir

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I don´t understand it either. Both Schott and Kiibus got a spot already, not sure why Nicole would get the second one. Why also give it to someone who has got a spot, and not someone like Josefin Taljegård who placed higher then Schott at WC? Looking at the standing for WC 2021 looks like every skater below Josefin got a spot for GP, but not her? I guess there must be other requirements as well, but I agree on that it´s very weird that Schott got a second spot!
With replacement's spot, money the host country/organizer need to spend play a big role. From all the skaters on the list, it is easier/less expensive to host Nicole Schott, especially cause she has training practices in Italy, maybe exactly in this period of a year. All the grand prix hosts follow the similar route. From the pool they have to choose they will call the closest one, not in terms of the ranking, but in terms of a physical distance :biggrin:
 
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The Alternate List consists only of the Season's Best List (2020 and 2021) + winners from this season's Challengers.

The host can choose any of the first 10 names on that list. And if no one is available the next 10 names.

If I count correctly, Eva-Lotta is #8 on that list and Nicole #9. Josefin is only #20.
Above Eva-Lotta are: Wi, Paganini, Safonova, Yokoi, Yamashita, Park, Kawabe.
I would say Yamashita or Park (who also have no spots) would have been the most deserving for this spot, especially Park who skated so brilliantly at US Classic.

The original assignments were:
The top 12 from Worlds got two, the SB top 24 (both 2020/2021 seasons) and the WS top 24 are guaranteed one (but all in the SB and most of the WS got two).
Thanks a lot for the explanation! That makes much more sense for me now.

Maybe Yamashita or Park will get the spot for the GP in Japan since Olga Mikutina WD. It seems logic they will give it to someone closer to host country, as Baron Vladimir explained above. (I have no clue where Yamashita or Park trains now though, so maybe they are not in Asia at all).
 

Jontor

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Thanks a lot for the explanation! That makes much more sense for me now.

Maybe Yamashita or Park will get the spot for the GP in Japan since Olga Mikutina WD. It seems logic they will give it to someone closer to host country, as Baron Vladimir explained above. (I have no clue where Yamashita or Park trains now though, so maybe they are not in Asia at all).
NHK will be a total different story. Japan and Korea already have three women there so Yamashita and Park are not possible. But Russia has only two. So Frolova, Samodurova and Nugumanova will jump into the Alternate List in front of Kiibus. It will be interesting to see how that one plays out.
 

Orchidea

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NHK will be a total different story. Japan and Korea already have three women there so Yamashita and Park are not possible. But Russia has only two. So Frolova, Samodurova and Nugumanova will jump into the Alternate List in front of Kiibus. It will be interesting to see how that one plays out.
But russians got maximum quota for countries and they dont count. Kiibus win also last year Nebelhorn and has higher SB points than Schott. SchotT dont train in Italy but in Oberstdorf...so it makes no sense. They are avoiding small federation skaters it seems.
 
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NHK will be a total different story. Japan and Korea already have three women there so Yamashita and Park are not possible. But Russia has only two. So Frolova, Samodurova and Nugumanova will jump into the Alternate List in front of Kiibus. It will be interesting to see how that one plays out.
Oh of course, there is a 3 spots limit per country, or? Doesn´t it count for the host country maybe? Will be interesting to see yes!
 

Jontor

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But russians got maximum quota for countries and they dont count. Kiibus win also last year Nebelhorn and has higher SB points than Schott. SchotT dont train in Italy but in Oberstdorf...so it makes no sense. They are avoiding small federation skaters it seems.
But Russian women has not maximum quota at NHK. Only Trusova and Usacheva are assigned there, so there is room for a 3rd Russian.

That said, I am a bit surprised that Bradie's spot in Italy didn't go to a 3rd Italian girl. As a host, Italy has the option to have three host picks (regardless of the Alternate List), they only have two at the moment.
 
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SnowWhite

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But russians got maximum quota for countries and they dont count. Kiibus win also last year Nebelhorn and has higher SB points than Schott. SchotT dont train in Italy but in Oberstdorf...so it makes no sense. They are avoiding small federation skaters it seems.
Not at NHK. They only have two entries currently there, which is very they Russian women were brought up specifically for that open spot.

For the record, the list this year includes the best score from 2020-21 or 2019-20, since so many competitions were cancelled. So Eva-Lotta has a 184.27 and Nicole has 182.71. It's a very small difference, so it's not surprising that they choose the skater who trains closer (Oberstdorf is significantly closer than Tallinn). And as others have already pointed out, for the GP Italy spot, several girls from Japan and South Korea were ahead of both Eva-Lotta and Nicole. So no, it doesn't seem like they are avoiding small fed skaters.
 

Baron Vladimir

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But russians got maximum quota for countries and they dont count. Kiibus win also last year Nebelhorn and has higher SB points than Schott. SchotT dont train in Italy but in Oberstdorf...so it makes no sense. They are avoiding small federation skaters it seems.
Her ISU bio says that she practices at Val Gardena too. And Oberstdorf is close to Italy.
 

Jontor

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Here is the Alternate List as I see it:

Evgenia Medvedeva 225.76 - not submitted by RusFed
Alina Zagitova 217.99
- not submitted by RusFed
Viktoria Vasilieva 198.79 - changed to Pairs
Anastasia Tarakanova 194.74 - resigned
1. Seoyeong Wi 193.30 (1) - can not replace at NHK
2. Alexia Paganini 192.88 (0) - got a spot at SC but WD, don't know if she is eligible because of that
3. Viktoria Safonova 192.49 (1)- got a replacement spot at Rostelecom
4. Yuhana Yokoi 191.90 (1) - can not replace at NHK
5. Mako Yamashita 189.25 (0) - can not replace at NHK
6. Anna Frolova 187.72 (0) - can only replace at NHK
7. Sofia Samodurova 187.16 (1) - can only replace at NHK
8. Yeonjeong Park 186.58 (0) - can not replace at NHK
9. Elizaveta Nugumanova 186.02 (0) - can only replace at NHK
10. Mana Kawabe 185.22 (1) - can not replace at NHK
11. Eva Lotta Kiibus 184.27 (1)
Nicole Schott 182.71 - got her 2nd spot
12. Hanul Kim 182.50 (0) - can not replace at NHK
13. Nana Araki 181.80 (0) - can not replace at NHK
14. Emmi Peltonen 181.79 (0)
15. Jenni Saarinen 181.20 (0)
16. Marilena Kitromilis 180.72 (0) - winner of this year's CS Autumn Classic
17. Lara Naki Gutmann 179.59 (1)
18. Alina Urushadze 179.50 (0)
19. Marin Honda 179.26 (0) - can not replace at NHK
20. Seoyeon Ji 179.23 (0) - can not replace at NHK
 
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ISU GP Gran Premio D'Italia 2021
Torino / ITA
05.11.2021 - 07.11.2021
In order of Personal Best.

Men
No. Name Nation Score
1 Yuma KAGIYAMA JPN 291.77
2 Mikhail KOLYADA RUS 274.37
3 Boyang JIN CHN 273.51
4 Dmitri ALIEV RUS 272.89
5 Junhwan CHA KOR 265.43
6 Petr GUMENNIK RUS 263.14
7 Kazuki TOMONO JPN 251.05
8 Daniel GRASSL ITA 247.80
9 Deniss VASILJEVS LAT 241.09
10 Gabriele FRANGIPANI ITA 231.65
11 Paul FENTZ GER 230.01
12 Yudong CHEN CHN 205.16

Women
No. Name Nation Score
1 Anna SHCHERBAKOVA RUS 241.65
2 Satoko MIYAHARA JPN 219.71
3 Sofia SAMODUROVA RUS 213.84
4 Loena HENDRICKX BEL 212.07
5 Mai MIHARA JPN 210.01
6 Eunsoo LIM KOR 205.57
7 Yelim KIM KOR 202.76
8 Maiia KHROMYKH RUS 198.24 (224.91* this season)
9 Nicole SCHOTT GER 182.71
10 Lara Naki GUTMANN ITA 179.59
11 Lucrezia BECCARI ITA 167.94
12 Yi ZHU CHN 155.41

Pairs
No. Name Nation Score
1 Wenjing SUI / Cong HAN CHN 234.84
2 Cheng PENG / Yang JIN CHN 216.90
3 Nicole DELLA MONICA / Matteo GUARISE ITA 205.14
4 Alina PEPELEVA / Roman PLESHKOV RUS 188.79
5 Iuliia ARTEMEVA / Mikhail NAZARYCHEV RUS 179.83
6 Annika HOCKE / Robert KUNKEL GER 168.21
7 Rebecca GHILARDI / Filippo AMBROSINI ITA 163.74
8 Sara CONTI / Niccolo MACII ITA 143.44

Ice Dance
No. Name Nation Score
1 Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON FRA 226.61
2 Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE USA 214.71
3 Alexandra STEPANOVA / Ivan BUKIN RUS 211.29
4 Shiyue WANG / Xinyu LIU CHN 196.75
5 Caroline GREEN / Michael PARSONS USA 188.43
6 Carolane SOUCISSE / Shane FIRUS CAN 181.39
7 Katharina MUELLER / Tim DIECK GER 173.74
8 Evgeniia LOPAREVA / Geoffrey BRISSAUD FRA 169.70
9 Hong CHEN / Zhuoming SUN CHN 162.91
10 Carolina MOSCHENI / Francesco FIORETTI ITA 140.56
 
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